EVE General Discussion

Yeah, safe except against MWD brawlers like the Comet and Incursus.

Anyway, killboards are nice, but mails should not include destroyed modules, only dropped modules. It makes no sense to get that sort of intel, and it would also affect the ISK efficiency chase, which is the worst effect of killboards.

There are people who really believe that ISK killed is somehow important figure, and even more important than kills/player.

As someone who frequents the FW novice capture points.

People who have lots of pvp skills and skill points, and know what they are doing will go to the small and medium capture points, better reward for the time spent (at leas the small is not 100% on the medium)

I, and a lot of others, who do Novice, do so because we have such a small amount of SP there is no other option than to run, and this provides at least a basic foundation in how to operate in unsafe space, while at the same time building a nice foundation of wealth in loyalty points.

Make sure you check how old the player who disgusts you by warping away as you come into the novice. I know most who do this are feeding on newer players for the easy kills (people who actually care about killboard stats and want to pad it) otherwise they would be harassing the larger points with more experienced players.

Half the time im not even sure the ship on the novice gate dscan can even enter, im sure as hell not as advanced as to know "this ship is probably kite fit and I can take it, or this ship is fit in a way that ill die for sure" and when I go down in two volleys after doing perhaps 5% damage to your shield, because my DPS and Tanking skills are lv 3 or below....it just seems a hell of a lot smarter to put a few stabilizers on and GTFO and hope you go away so I can come back and get that loyalty (or go elsewhere)

So yeah, I see people who are experienced pvpers, who camp the novice gates, as the ones looking to pad their kill stats, not the guy who runs, chances are hes a noob...or just so awful at pvp....either way its not going to be a fun, challenging, entertaining fight....IN MOST CASES.

Check out the small and mediums though, those people at least have enough SP to ride a destroyer or higher tech ship and probably know enough about the game to give you a fight that's somewhat entertaining. Anyway, the people who stay on the novice when you come in are either so clueless about whats going on your just shooting fish in a barrel, or hes a pvper who knows what hes doing, and it will be a good fight. Chances are the guy who warps out, knows hes a bad pvper or too new.

this isn't the case. people shoot what they can catch. most pies roaming are looking for a proper fight. that doesn't mean they're not going to shoot whatever's in front of them. i've never heard of anyone specifically targeting younger players

go to a quieter system off the pipe and get into a medium plex chances are you won't be disturbed

also it's concievable experienced players'll sit in a novice plex rather than change system, because why move to a potentially more populated system when the one you're in is so quiet? the plexes might be named 'novice' but it doesn't mean anything

I would say it is a mirror of the sad state of mind people nowadays have and removing killboards
would not change the problem one bit, because the people still stay the same.

Of course, everyone who rather blames "everything else than himself" will always keep
blaming "everything else" because they are unable to/unwilling to to see that it's their ego that's
the actual problem.

I'd like to see a minerals destroyed side to killmails and while killboards do create PvP grinders, they are the reason alliances can have logical reimbursement programs so there is good that comes from them.

no you wouldn't

True.

She's a liar.

Why do people want a carefree EVE?

EVE PVP is exciting because losses are meaningful. When you have enough ISK to not really care, the permanent and public record of your losses is the only thing that keeps them real.

I have little interest in fighting people that would just undock because they know they can keep their losses secret. Man up and lose ships like a boss!


Also note that no-one really gives a damn about your losses except yourself (if you're so risk adverse), and secret hidden killboards won't really change that.

Killboards will never go away. Best to just deal with it and carry on. If someone runs from you, just try harder next time to catch them.

If you have shiny ships you want to use, then start up your own corp, or start up a toon and use that toon to fly those shiny ships. Either way, play EVE how you want, not how others want you to play. If your corpies ***** and moan about killboards, then seriously, start up your own corp with your own rules.