Out of Pod Experience

And just in case EVE stood a chance, it turns that Elite Dangerous will have a dynamic universe where, FAI, if a player destroys something, that something will stay destroyed until it is repaired or removed, and every instance will display it as destroyed to every other player loading that system from the database.

All that assumes, of course, the game actually releases and works. Remember that CCP promised a lot with Incarna - but of course, it's not like Chris Roberts has a history of failed releases and not delivering on his promises... right?

Frankly, I'd believe in his ability not to screw up SC if he promised fewer features and got to work instead of announcing bonsai trees and alien languages to milk more money out of people. Most of the stuff comes out delayed and riddled with bugs, and some of the stretch goal features sound bad even in concept stage. Space court? Really? Because that's... definitely not going to be gameable and it won't be misused. Nooope. Totally.

And, let's be honest, the same insult can be used addressing prospective SC players. We may be flies clinging on to **** so old it's fossilized, but at least we're not worshipping a non-existent **** hidden behind a curtain and a fly that's preaching about how amazing the **** will be when he finally shows it to us. In the meantime, pay more because he needs to polish it.

To be honest, CCP is doing exactly what it needs to be doing right now - changing sand in the sandbox. It doesn't need any jesus features right now because EVE already has a lot of fun things.

Fortunately, it's not like SC (if it's ever released in a playable state and actually worth looking at) will be restricted to non-EVE players only. Finding ways to bring some viking-style sandbox to the hellokittyverse of Chris Roberts, if just for the tears of those who thought they'd be safe might be a nice thing to do while you wait for a fleet or are bored in general.

Yup, and as you go on you notice a pattern - CR promises a lot, the release date gets delayed time and time again. He slams the door, and the game gets released unfinished - like with Freelancer. Which CR abandoned because of his own failures. My point stands - he has a history of botching up things on the "promise and not deliver" stage.

Looks like a similar pattern is repeating with Star Citizen, so it'll be fun to watch the tears when it ships with like a quarter of the features people were promised - and most of them in a sorry, need-fixing state. The downside of huge hype is even larger disappointment.

CCP has an equal one, but they don't even hide it at this point. They also make a good choice of not hyping up their features too much and promising the impossible.

AFAIK, he actually sold Digital Anvil/Freelancer to MS because he was running out of money and still wasn't done making it due to the project being overly ambitious. MS did what any sane publisher would - scaled down the scope and released a nice game, because hype aside Freelancer wasn't bad. Even with overly complex features being cut, the game still took around three more years to publish.

If they stayed clear until it was released, we likely wouldn't see the game at all - each year of development time costs money. If you prolong development too much, you'll start falling behind on the technological side, forcing additional time and cost investment to bump the graphics department up for instance. Games that stay in the development hell for too long seldom are good on release, and canning WoD was a good move on CCP's part. They quit while they were ahead.

And nope, that doesn't count due to it being a cinematic trailer. Cinematic trailers have a tendency to be eye candy and in this day and age pretty much no-one believes in their content - the only trailers that do represent EVE nicely are the ones about Butterfly Effect.

The trailer promises nothing, and so far CCP promised the implementation of player-built structures within a several year scope. It's far from rolling several games with mountains of features into one within a year or two but at least it's a solid and possible thing. Along with promised changes that are actually rolling out in the meantime, like industry revamps - or the upcoming research and corporation/alliance changes.

You forgot to add failed movie... which puts CR above ccp in failure rate.. and technically avatar game play was not failed, its there. just not complete, which is the exact same at this point of SC hangers module. so they are tied. supposedly this will change with SC goes live, but thats still a few years off, so we will see.

Case in point, apples cut deep into oranges market share in the fall.

Um, it accelerates it?

We went from 2 expansions per year to release each six weeks. The content so far has been good, some nice quality of life changes (already out and some to be released with Oceanus). New models, new effects, fixed mechanics.

WoD devs have been working on EVE in the past and I think they still are after WoD was canned.

And to be honest, I haven't seen any major, crushing bugs lately. Released features are nicely done with minor glitches at most and since these days you can release a patch the day after they didn't stick around for long. It actually got a bit better since the switch to more frequent releases was made.

Post big expansion there always was an unending barrage of patches that fixed what the big expansion broke. Certainly doesn't seem like they're in full panic mode (except for the fact that companies generally tend to be in full panic mode, trying to squeeze out as much as possible of as little personnel as possible. CCP is no exception). They're proceeding with the vision nicely and delivering content that was requested.

WoD developers made most of the avatar content in game. They very notoriousy built 3 Captain Quarter's in less time that it took the Art team in Reykjavik to build the Minmattar one.

WoD developers faced an ordeal of task reallocation, as whenever Reykjavik sneezed, they were 60-houred for help, leaving WoD unattended for weeks or months.

WoD developers were settled in Atlanta, and that office was closed, thus nobody was left. Anyway, some assets may have traveled from an office to other (tights?).

So now, there is no WoD and no WoD people but also whenever Reykjavik is short of hands it will have no backup.

Well, news flash I've been playing for 11 1/2 years straight, and since the primary focus of the game is flying ships and fitting them out for a given role/ situation, i'll have the roughly 270 skills in the game dedicated to every single ship class and for every race, completely maxed out in less than 18 months( yes even titans).


By CCP standards, that isn't much time left to add more content for the old players of the game....I've said this dozens of times in the past that content for the really old player base is being flat out ignored, and it's been like this for the last couple of years, so it isn't like we haven't been patient.