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Demonfist
New Eden Capsuleer College
Higher Education
#781 - 2014-08-31 17:24:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
i argued the point.
No, you didn't. You made a bunch of baseless claims that were immediately shot down. With nothing left to offer, you dived headlong into the fallacy ditch and started splashing about feebly.

Quote:
what needed to be said was said.
Indeed: the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You have demonstrated this with ample clarity.

fixing some freshly beaten dead horse for dinner, huh? enjoy that.

eBil Tycoon > we're more like megacapitalistic psychotic space cowboys with raging epeens and 3% real girls.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#782 - 2014-08-31 17:26:09 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
fixing some freshly beaten dead horse for dinner, huh? enjoy that.

So you agree, then, that the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. After all, you can't think of a single thing to say to suggest otherwise.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#783 - 2014-08-31 17:26:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Demonfist wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
you're so cute when you wish you knew what you were talking about and were right. Blink

In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy.

*pats on head and hands a lolli* run along now.
Prime example.

If you had any faith in your argument, you would argue the point. You would argue and show proof your scenario is profitable.

i argued the point. what needed to be said was said. no more troll food will be dispensed, sorry you'll have to look elsewhere.

Your "point" is based on assumption and falsehood, with a large sprinkling of egotism.

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Demonfist
New Eden Capsuleer College
Higher Education
#784 - 2014-08-31 17:26:55 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Prime example.

If you had any faith in your argument, you would argue the point. You would argue and show proof your scenario is profitable.

i argued the point. what needed to be said was said. no more troll food will be dispensed, sorry you'll have to look elsewhere.
Yes we read your argument and it was wrong. But instead of backing it up and presenting more facts, you've thrown a tantrum and started name calling.

Now you refuse to show faith in what you said, because let's face it, it was wrong.

is it namecalling when the names fit? or simple recognition and acceptance of reality.

eBil Tycoon > we're more like megacapitalistic psychotic space cowboys with raging epeens and 3% real girls.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#785 - 2014-08-31 17:27:03 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Demonfist wrote:

PLEX are the yardstick of the eve economy. when ganking takes a toll it's price will shift.


No it wont. PLEX demand has nothing to do with ganking at all.

you might want to compare it's prices with incidences of burn jita events and rethink your stance.


Given that I remember M0o and that they did more damage in a few hours than any burn jita did over three days I would say I am sure ganking has zero impact on plex prices.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#786 - 2014-08-31 17:27:11 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
i argued the point. what needed to be said was said. no more troll food will be dispensed, sorry you'll have to look elsewhere.


So link, if you would, the post where you proved that your scenario was profitable. If you're using an alternate definition* of "profit," please also link to an independent source for that definition.


*For reference, wiktionary defines profit as "Total income or cash flow minus expenditures." and notes that "when the difference is negative the term loss is correct."

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Dave Stark
#787 - 2014-08-31 17:27:12 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
i argued the point.
No, you didn't. You made a bunch of baseless claims that were immediately shot down. With nothing left to offer, you dived headlong into the fallacy ditch and started splashing about feebly.

Quote:
what needed to be said was said.
Indeed: the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You have demonstrated this with ample clarity.

fixing some freshly beaten dead horse for dinner, huh? enjoy that.


we wouldn't have to keep beating it, if you'd just answer the questions that were put to you.

however, this thread has taken the predictable turn that after roughly 20 pages some clueless gank victim sympathiser comes along and makes baseless claims, gets told they're wrong, and has a tantrum and the thread gets derailed to a back and forth of;

people asking for proof of unfounded and hilariously flawed claims, and the clueless party having a tantrum saying he's right yet failing to produce any evidence what so ever.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#788 - 2014-08-31 17:29:21 UTC
The plus point of beating a dead horse relentlessly is that the meat ends up nice and tender.

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Demonfist
New Eden Capsuleer College
Higher Education
#789 - 2014-08-31 17:29:50 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
i argued the point.
No, you didn't. You made a bunch of baseless claims that were immediately shot down. With nothing left to offer, you dived headlong into the fallacy ditch and started splashing about feebly.

Quote:
what needed to be said was said.
Indeed: the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You have demonstrated this with ample clarity.

fixing some freshly beaten dead horse for dinner, huh? enjoy that.


we wouldn't have to keep beating it, if you'd just answer the questions that were put to you.

however, this thread has taken the predictable turn that after roughly 20 pages some clueless gank victim sympathiser comes along and makes baseless claims, gets told they're wrong, and has a tantrum and the thread gets derailed to a back and forth of;

people asking for proof of unfounded and hilariously flawed claims, and the clueless party having a tantrum saying he's right yet failing to produce any evidence what so ever.

and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel over and over.

eBil Tycoon > we're more like megacapitalistic psychotic space cowboys with raging epeens and 3% real girls.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#790 - 2014-08-31 17:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Demonfist wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Prime example.

If you had any faith in your argument, you would argue the point. You would argue and show proof your scenario is profitable.

i argued the point. what needed to be said was said. no more troll food will be dispensed, sorry you'll have to look elsewhere.
Yes we read your argument and it was wrong. But instead of backing it up and presenting more facts, you've thrown a tantrum and started name calling.

Now you refuse to show faith in what you said, because let's face it, it was wrong.

is it namecalling when the names fit? or simple recognition and acceptance of reality.
Yes it's name calling, because it doesn't fit with reality simply because you are wrong. This is why you are avoiding the argument and instead resorting to name calling.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#791 - 2014-08-31 17:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel very simple truth over and over.

That is currently the only side of the argument, so what else is there to do but to repeat it and hope that you actually start discussing it again?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#792 - 2014-08-31 17:31:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel over and over.
Once again, speak for yourself. Over the years Tippia has proven time and time again that he/she actually knows what they're talking about, you on the other hand appear to be wholly ignorant.

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Luukje
The Vendetta Mercenaries
Vendetta Mercenary Group
#793 - 2014-08-31 17:33:10 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
having people willing to join is.
So that was a pretty nonsensical red herring then, and we're back at the original question: they attacked you with a fleet, so why is it so bad to have a fleet of your own for protection?

it's not bad. we can have a game where nothing moves without a fleet of escorts. supply will start to dry up, prices will skyrocket and eventually even the gankers will start to cry. my point is is that really the eve we want to have?



You sir, are ********. no offense but you've got such little understanding of eve that it is utterly pointless to even further discuss anything you're saying. You've clearly shown you have absolutely NO understanding of any of these subjects.
Demonfist
New Eden Capsuleer College
Higher Education
#794 - 2014-08-31 17:33:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel very simple truth over and over.

That is currently the only side of the argument, so what else is there to do but to repeat it and hope that you actually start discussing it again?

i don't repeat myself for idiots and i don't feed trolls. you should give up hope, it will save time.

eBil Tycoon > we're more like megacapitalistic psychotic space cowboys with raging epeens and 3% real girls.
Demonfist
New Eden Capsuleer College
Higher Education
#795 - 2014-08-31 17:35:27 UTC
Luukje wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
having people willing to join is.
So that was a pretty nonsensical red herring then, and we're back at the original question: they attacked you with a fleet, so why is it so bad to have a fleet of your own for protection?

it's not bad. we can have a game where nothing moves without a fleet of escorts. supply will start to dry up, prices will skyrocket and eventually even the gankers will start to cry. my point is is that really the eve we want to have?



You sir, are ********. no offense but you've got such little understanding of eve that it is utterly pointless to even further discuss anything you're saying. You've clearly shown you have absolutely NO understanding of any of these subjects.

you can stop anytime. i don't have a code alliance held to your head.

eBil Tycoon > we're more like megacapitalistic psychotic space cowboys with raging epeens and 3% real girls.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#796 - 2014-08-31 17:38:23 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel very simple truth over and over.

That is currently the only side of the argument, so what else is there to do but to repeat it and hope that you actually start discussing it again?

i don't repeat myself for idiots and i don't feed trolls. you should give up hope, it will save time.


You seem perfectly willing to repeat your name calling. Why shouldn't you be willing to link to the post where you proved what you claim that you proved?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#797 - 2014-08-31 17:39:08 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
Luukje wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
having people willing to join is.
So that was a pretty nonsensical red herring then, and we're back at the original question: they attacked you with a fleet, so why is it so bad to have a fleet of your own for protection?

it's not bad. we can have a game where nothing moves without a fleet of escorts. supply will start to dry up, prices will skyrocket and eventually even the gankers will start to cry. my point is is that really the eve we want to have?



You sir, are ********. no offense but you've got such little understanding of eve that it is utterly pointless to even further discuss anything you're saying. You've clearly shown you have absolutely NO understanding of any of these subjects.

you can stop anytime. i don't have a code alliance held to your head.



No no, by all means keep humiliating yourself Demonfist, its actually quite funny.

Quick hint for you, flouncing off into the sunset loudly delcaring victory actually requires you to be right about something first.

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Dave Stark
#798 - 2014-08-31 17:40:01 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel over and over.


we haven't turned a blind eye to anything.

the entire problem is you haven't even given us an answer that we could turn a blind eye to. we're still waiting for you to answer the questions we've put to you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#799 - 2014-08-31 17:40:48 UTC
Demonfist wrote:
i don't repeat myself for idiots and i don't feed trolls. you should give up hope, it will save time.

No, I'm a very hopeful person. So my current hope is that you will realise that there is only one side of the argument, simply because you have failed to provide a second one.

I'm also hoping that you will realise the simple fact of what you've said so far: that the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. Everything you've offered leads to this conclusion. If you want a different conclusion to be reached, you have to offer something new (and preferably something true).
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#800 - 2014-08-31 17:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
RubyPorto wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Demonfist wrote:
and the other side of that argument turning a blind eye to everything that is said and repeating the same drivel very simple truth over and over.

That is currently the only side of the argument, so what else is there to do but to repeat it and hope that you actually start discussing it again?

i don't repeat myself for idiots and i don't feed trolls. you should give up hope, it will save time.


You seem perfectly willing to repeat your name calling. Why shouldn't you be willing to link to the post where you proved what you claim that you proved?
The name calling is the only thing left in his arsenal, everything else has been nuked by the application of logic, and people who know what they're on about.

He's been Tippiadokkened.

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