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High Sec Hauling/Mining Kills - TY CCP for No Protection

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Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2014-08-27 18:42:50 UTC
see your first mistake was doing the hauling on the same character that accepted the contract. You forgot rule #1, trust no one.

I don't haul often, but when I do, it's certainly not with the character that accepted the contract.
CCP Falcon
#102 - 2014-08-27 19:15:50 UTC
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile

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Ra' zutao
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#103 - 2014-08-27 19:18:40 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile





Ra' Zutao's personal escort services for haulers is available in High Sec areas for 20% of your cargo Holds's value,
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Wait thats a bad business plan.. Shocked
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#104 - 2014-08-27 19:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#105 - 2014-08-27 19:22:23 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile



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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2014-08-27 19:23:27 UTC
Lets imagine something more boring then 100% safe hauling ... trying .. trying .. nope.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#107 - 2014-08-27 19:23:47 UTC
CONCORD: The Carebear's hot-drop*
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Captain Davy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2014-08-27 19:30:24 UTC
I know this is not this case... but come on... freighter ganking is too much easy this days, it is just stupid to see empty freighters get ganked in high sec just for the lolz.. CCP should really address that. Its ok if a dumb dude dies in a 3B+ freighter in high sec... but empy freighter is a little too much for me.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#109 - 2014-08-27 19:36:29 UTC
Captain Davy wrote:
I know this is not this case... but come on... freighter ganking is too much easy this days, it is just stupid to see empty freighters get ganked in high sec just for the lolz.. CCP should really address that. Its ok if a dumb dude dies in a 3B+ freighter in high sec... but empy freighter is a little too much for me.
So people should only be able to have fun if the fun activity in question meets your standards, otherwise CCP should step in and stop them?

Just want to be clear here.

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Xuixien
Critical Horizon
#110 - 2014-08-27 19:45:58 UTC
CCP Falcon for president.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#111 - 2014-08-27 19:46:05 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile



You KNOW that's a lie, right? You would need one hell of a profit margin to pay other players for boring themselves to death as they become useless extra guns on top of CONCORD's once in a blue moon.
Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#112 - 2014-08-27 19:46:50 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile



When can we start bribing the 'slightly dodgy' ones to you know, look the other way in certain events Blink

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Boom McCondor
Special Space Service
#113 - 2014-08-27 19:47:46 UTC
Glasgow Dunlop wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile



When can we start bribing the 'slightly dodgy' ones to you know, look the other way in certain events Blink

Isn't that a wardec?
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#114 - 2014-08-27 20:06:01 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
You KNOW that's a lie, right? You would need one hell of a profit margin to pay other players for boring themselves to death as they become useless extra guns on top of CONCORD's once in a blue moon.
There are other measures as well. Don't be a profitable kill is the easiest among the options.
Luukje
The Vendetta Mercenaries
P I R A T
#115 - 2014-08-27 20:23:28 UTC
CCP Falcon, you are my hero. Big smile
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#116 - 2014-08-27 20:25:58 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
You KNOW that's a lie, right? You would need one hell of a profit margin to pay other players for boring themselves to death as they become useless extra guns on top of CONCORD's once in a blue moon.
There are other measures as well. Don't be a profitable kill is the easiest among the options.


I was adressing Falcon's false point on the use of bringing in guns, didn't intend to write a treaty on how to stay alive. What?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#117 - 2014-08-27 20:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

Smile



You KNOW that's a lie, right? You would need one hell of a profit margin to pay other players for boring themselves to death as they become useless extra guns on top of CONCORD's once in a blue moon.


Ganking that Tornado before warp in would have worked perfectly fine. They're not exactly the tankiest ships around.

Otherwise, Grab a Web, Grab a Blackbird, Grab RR. Have someone in fleet put a frigate deep into the docking circle and warp to them so you don't end up off station.

Bringing friends takes many different forms, and the most effective form may differ for different situations. In this case, guns would have worked great.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#118 - 2014-08-27 20:35:57 UTC
That whole loss could have been avoided by warping in at 100 (or 75 or 50 for variety) while cloaked and spotting the Tornado on grid. Then you move a few km off center, post ":P" in local and go for a coffee.
Hiyora Akachi
Advanced Hole Theory
#119 - 2014-08-27 20:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiyora Akachi
Carebear killed in HighSec, wants CCP to hold his hand and ban all teh ebil gankers. News at 11.


Props to Luukje and Clonekiller.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#120 - 2014-08-27 20:50:10 UTC
Hauling a total of 7 billion in collateral, with that low market value of the four contracts' contents didn't ring a bell?

Think I'll just keep CCP Falcon's post for future quotation, so thanks for this thread, somehow Blink

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