Wormholes

Who's gonna provide for the T3 production?
Who's gonna farm all the blue loot?

Was this a change that was always going to go through no matter what feedback was received?

I just want to say that you inherited this job at a very difficult time, and many of us feel for you.
Keep your head up.

I find it very disappointing That ccp Refused to listen to a entire community within there game and just basically said f you guys were doing it anyway..

They said they wanted feed back and when it was not the Feed back they wanted they just ignored us.

They will not give us the content we are looking for and are making changes to things that did not need changed and will reduce content in w space.

Very sad in my view as a lot of us long term pilots are getting very discouraged with the game.

We scan for hours and find nothing.. we Have chains that are 30-50 wormholes deep and we find nothing. If We do find a wh with a tower there's normally no one logged in or if they are there afk pos spinning.

So ccp has reduced w space content and yet they Buff the one thing that drove most explores From wh space back to hs... to run Incursions..
Why did incursions need a buff. They are at fault for Driving up The Prices on Most market Stuff and Plex (don't get me started on that subject) And reducing Pilots going into wh space to Kill sleepers for isk.

This is just a bad play ccp very bad. All this was is Change for the sake of Change.. Not well thought through nor did you Listen to Your one experts in the fields of Wormholes..The pilots that live there.

W space Pilots are not your Normal Null/LS Pilots..They are very Smart and Creative. We know when we are being ignored and placated by ccp Fozzie. I just Wanted to Shout at him to STFU and stop paying us lip service. It was obvious he did not want to answer real Questions and Was distracted by what ever else he was doing..

Fix this or you will slowly lose more subscription and accounts over the next year or so and further reduce your profits and player base.. Its a domino effect. The more pilots your lose in w space will cause a chain reaction of more w space pilots leaving due to no one left to hunt and fight with..

Ppl went to WHs to have "their own space".

Ppl even wrote that many time.

That is nothing than a carebears wet dream - farm as you like, control access to "your" space and fly caps any time without danger.

Except all the change really does is make it more tedious.

All's that's really dangerous to is CCP's bottom-line as bored people don't stick around long

If they are not on wormhole, why not take in a cloaky hauler and anchor drag bubbles? And then when they come to remove them jump sniping nados with mjd. Snipe jump back home and mjd away. Or something else that may actually work. You are acting like its pre-hyperion when you know its not. No pity from me in this matter. Both you and tlc have better pilots than acting like a standoff is the only alternative.

The problem with your argument imo is that whilst I agree you can have a stalemate, in either case it's the aversion to risk that is the problem rather than the mechanics. If you won't engage because of ~the blob waiting to pounce~ then what difference does it make if you can jump in and be in jump range on the other side, besides the fact it means you can disengage at will?

Ultimately you either have subcaps to support your caps in order for them to be able to roll, or you don't. If you presuppose that in any encounter with a major wormhole corp that there's a hidden blob somewhere waiting to pounce then chances are you weren't going to fight anyway. Why would you? These mechanics don't change whether the blob exists or not. Likewise, the other party might think you have a blob waiting too.

Also your argument about two opposing sides sat either side of a wormhole is basically exactly the same predicament that fights in k-space already deal with. The side that is set up on the gate has the advantage of establishing their position, and the other guys who jump in end up in random locations on the other side, potentially out of rep range, etc.

Wormholes are obviously somewhat different in mechanics because of the mass element, and polarisation, but wormholes also have no aggression timers so anyone in range of it can deaggress at any time if they're about to die. The idea that you should be able to jump in a capital solo and - barring another cloaked capital on the other side - be able to jump back whenever you feel like at no risk is out of whack with the rest of Eve where making choices have repercussions - be they aggression timers, or being too far out to escape immediately.

all the theory crafting in the world isnt going to magically force people to stay or move into into whs if its just plain not worth it. the numbers will speak for themselves.

besides, the graphs ccp gave us showed that c6 space far outstripped the other classes of wormholes combined in regards to npc kills. wouldnt it make far more sense to just focus on cap escalations if whspace was *actually* causing an econimic problem?

nullsec so far outstrips wh space in isk generation its hilarious. the isk in any one hole is finite at any one point and its impossible to cap escalate farm your static because you can only get one dread in before you lose the ability to bring them back.

the isk in an upgraded nullsec system is infinate and instantly accessible. no setup time, safe local, blue donut, etc etc etc.

but no please go on on how whs are the problem.

Am I the only one who thinks of dreads with overdrives and MWDs and it just doesn't feel right on the inside?


(other than the fack that dreads with overdrives will die pretty fast....)