Missions & Complexes

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/size-matters-introducing-burner-missions/?_ga=1.109167175.370378389.1405686458

Well, I've taken a look at the new burner missions and all I can see is it a way to isolate me from logistics and lose an expensive frigate when I get disconnected (which seems to be happening a lot lately with the DDOS attacks, even assuming I can log back on at all).

Level 4 missions are a slow grind on your own, which is probably why they are bringing them in, but until I get to run them and see if they get the difficulty right, I can't address any specific concerns.

Salvage and bounties are a big part of the payoff and a motivation to form up in fleets, usually with a dedicated salvage ship following behind - which frigates don't do such a good job at.

All I can see this being is another solo grind without the rewards that make it worthwhile.

Unless the mission texts are very explicit about there being no penalty to refuse it, then there are going to be people caught out.

If it has some even more difficult dumb objective to complete on top of the combat, then I can see people not only losing their expensive frigate, but standings when they fail as well.

I'd rather blitz 3s in a battlecruiser, get in, get out, grab my LP and continue - all I can see is being a frustrating meat grinder that chews through ship after ship until you complete it.

LP value reduction however will be mandatory, another example of CCP ******* mission runners in the ass.

They wont quit until it takes a 100m sp character 100 hours to grind a PLEX in hisec.

they tell you in advance what you will be fighting, I won't say I think they will be a pushover, but when you know what you will be fighting in 1v1 it gets very easy to make cheap gimmicky setups that will win. I don't know exactly how ewar will work vs these guys, so that will likely limit some set ups, but still I think most people will be able to complete these on their own.

These missions will be a much appreciated break in the lv4 mission grind I for one am loving the idea, but I also love flying frigate class ships and find that there are far too few instances you can in pve and be profitable. +1 Fozzie GREAT IDEA!! The future is exciting.

Edit: @ Vinyl afaik NPC's are immune to ewar

God!!! Y U ALL Complaint so much. You lack discipline, dedication and creativity.

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Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 25
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 25
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
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280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
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All your problems are solved!

I would have liked to see null / low-sec agents have a seperate pool for these missions, or maybe add some agents for these burners in space that you have to probe down. It would have given people a reason to run L4's in low-sec again, but having the do the usual L4's as well will limit that a bit due to ship types required.


I can't see that lasting long (at least in high-sec). They removed faction drops from L4's before and if a lot of people are running these then some faction module prices will crash. I just hope the drops are different to those from exploration sites for this or it's an indirect nerf to exploration.

Kinda hard to know yet but it does say Faction rather than Deadspace. This has been brought up in the comments on the dev blog so hopefully they will make the right decision.

Maybe.
But I do want a good chance at faction mods.

With only one mission per pirate type it will only be a few days before people have published standard fits to counter the various missions.

You will of course get the odd random individual that insists on flying them in something totally unsuited just because they can :D

Not sure why somebody would be wanting to whine-complain in anticipation like that. They're new, and they're entirely optional. So it seems to me that their worst possible effect is nothing ... and ppl will just ignore them.

There are, however, similar elite-frig 1v1 mission encounters at the end of each of the two pirate epic arcs. Those frigs are not a pushover, but they're also not too terribad to kill. Those missions have rather nice rewards for simple NPC frigate 1v1s tho.

While I may give the burn missions a try, I doubt I'll be running many, but they seem like a bit of a no-loss idea from CCP ... perhaps trying to inject a little something else into the mission-runner doldrums.