Missions & Complexes

It is when you pay ninja clans 10 lbs of gold to assassinate someone, it is effectively taken off the market permanently.

But back OT, looks like the drops are very rare, and the missions are definitely rare. It seems to be a monotony breaker but not a faucet as of yet. But I dunno how much of a monotony breaker if you don't get many offers.

If someone tries to gank you in one of these missions, it's going to be real hard. These missions will not be a sit still at the warp-in and shoot the npc. You do that you deserve to be ganked. By the npc rat.

These seem pretty tough if you don't fit correctly even with Assault Frigate to V. The amount of incoming DPS is pretty serious.

These encounter are in no way meant for "newbie" mission runners.

At least it may have the intended/unintended effect of pushing up the price of assault frigates .. :)

"NPC's will not run out of cap or warp away"

How is this an improvement? they're like any other NPC then, they can't be scrammed at all, immune to all ewar! how is it fair? especially the neuting part, you can get neuted but can't neut back?

Well, I just tried my first one of these. I kind of expected to lose, I didn't quite expect to get spanked the way I did. Getting hit for 500+ points of damage is not something I'd normally expect to see coming from frigate sized rail guns, especially when the ship I was in, at worst had a 70% tank against the damage type (unless my agent lied).

I'm of mixed opinion about these missions. I don't begrudge anyone who wants to do them, the opportunity to do so (as if I even could). As a stressed out member of the world-wide rodent race, I kind of enjoy coming home and taking out my frustrations on a few dozen electronic rats. So I would like to see more missions geared to what I want to do (peace and quiet with explosions) as opposed to what someone else thinks I should be doing.

Eve missions tend towards the simplistic... go there, kill that, come back... wash, cycle, rinse. Even these new Burner missions are no exception. They might be quicker, the reward might be higher per capita than other missions but it's still the same go there, kill that, come back. Whatever the future of missions I hope, first and foremost, that the devs look for ways to break out of this formula. I think if they can, the results will be to the advantage of both PvP and PvE players alike.

Anyway, if you choose to do one of these missions I'd advise making sure your ship is insured. It's fairly likely that you're better than me, that you can field just the right set up to take out these ships but if you aren't it's certainly nice to get some money back for your troubles.

As for me, I'll stick with World's Collide until something better comes along.

Good hunting!

- Mel

Eve is a machine with a lot of moving parts. Some of the gears are going to get greased before others and that's okay. Some things, they're actually smart not to take on at the present, especially if they can't really do the thing right. The problem for me is that Eve starts something and doesn't finish it. From a PvE perspective, there's Epic and Cosmos missions, there's the idea that rats don't even have the AI for object avoidance (something that's been around since the early 90s). In the field of general play it's been three years since T3 ships have launched and we haven't since a single new one, there's no T3 modules, there are still plenty of T1 ships that haven't had a T2 version release yet (Abaddon anyone?), in the 10 years of New Eden, there's never been a named T2 module manufactured or dropped... and of course the Captain's quarters/perambulation which we really didn't need but now that we've got it, let's see the thing get finished.

I'm sure PvPers have there own wish list but since that's not my area of expertise, I'll leave it to someone better acquainted with those issues to make their own thoughts known.

I think we will see the EoM ships eventually because the trend right now is to add new flyable craft.

My point is I don't think CCP is lazy, unwilling to tackle complex projects, or get their hands dirty. I think CCP is always looking for the "new bling." They keep introducing things that are half finished and let them wither on the vine rather than develop these projects to their potential. Look even in the Dev blog on Burner Missions, they said something to the effect of "let's see how these go and maybe we'll have cruiser sized Burner Missions. More than likely it'll be five years before they look at these again.

As for the Burner Missions themselves someone mentioned a Worm as being a good choice. I'm curious if anyone has a good fit(s), Worm, Daredevil, etc. that work

I tried the blood raider variant today,between the perma-running neut,scram + webs to the silly speed that it was going at despite being webbed took it from being a fun challenging to frustration far too quickly.

I really don't care about isk,but not being able to do these pvp style missions in a pvp fitted frigate kills the fun and kills my interest in doing the content entirely

If it would be otherwise wast mayority of players, maybe would be also you among them, would whine "why things are so hard and unpredictable?" Like it's happening with these burner missions right now. You are not alone on this world, and that world can't be shaped solely by our liking.

As regarding the burner missions, it was enough said already so I'll just say they're a joke. Whatever CCP tried to achieve with them they failed miserably. So what's new. Expect countless of patches in the near future these burner missons to be overhauled.

Is it possible to jam the burner frigs as the daredevil has a sensor strength of 12 using 2 ecm of the correct value you get 14-15