Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Module Optimization: gives an x% chance at a pirate/faction bpc by using meta level modules and the reverse engineering mechanic. The metas are consumed as your capsuleer strips out the best components and junks the rest.

I think I remember reading something about this. I am sure it is on the road map.

Pretty sure the meta modules will be 'equal' (ish) to standard T1, but will have benefits and drawbacks based on a balancing formula. Pretty sure multiple Faction mods were going to recieve a similar treatment, gaining and losing benefits depending on the racial predispositions.

So, We are looking at adding advanced industry skills. Something that will add game play to veteran players, without gimping new players. Some thing cool, that adds utility, but not advantage.

I am thinking just based on the name, advanced industry, it should be stuff that adds advanced abilities due to exceptional understanding of how industry works.



1- this one is a little far fetched, but might be cool. How about a skill like re-engineering, you can re-engineer modules to raise their meta level. This would allow highly experienced industrial players to produce modules that are otherwise only available as loot drops. Rather than just the basic meta 0 or T2 stuff. Maybe even so far as to re-engineer T2 meta 5 level modules into faction modules, or Faction modules into ded modules.

It would of course all need to be chance based, just like invention. The chances of getting a ded module could be low, say 10% chance of success, keep in mind you would be starting with an expensive faction module, While producing the common meta 4 from basic T1 would be a 95% chance with the skills maxed.



2- What about a skill that increases specialized cargo holds, like ore holds or fleet hangers, not normal cargo as that would require freighters to be rebalanced again. I am thinking understanding of advanced industry and how ships are built allows you to make better use of specialized cargo space adding say a 4% per level bonus to specialized cargo bays (20% at level 5). At level 5 it would be equal to an expanded cargo hold module, except that those holds are not affected by the modules, so not stacking issues. it would add a way to enhance those special cargoholds.



3- It would be really cool to have a set of skills that when trained by a CEO can affect attributes of POSes owned by the corp they are CEO of. Having a complete understanding of advanced industry (skill to 5) allows you to get the most out of starbase towers owned by your corp. perhaps several skills affecting anything from power grid and CPU, to shield and armor resists, or even fuel consumption.



My point is, having advanced industry trained to 5 as a prerequisite does not necessarily mean the skills have to be directly industrial related, they could be skills that allow you to apply industrial knowledge and understanding to other tasks.

That knowledge could even go into combat skills. for example, being an expert in advanced industry allows you to push the systems of your ship a little further than a pilot without detailed knowledge of how those systems are constructed.

4- Say for example, have a high tech weapons upgrade fitting skill that has both advanced industry and Advanced weapon upgrades as prerequisites. it reduces fitting costs of weapons just a little bit further. I am thinking about how Scotty on star trek was able to enhance the performance of the enterprise through detailed knowledge of how the systems were put together and how they worked. i.e. advanced industrial knowledge. Put that knowledge to use outside of just the construction of the equipment.

I like both of these ideas, the numbers probably need to be checked for balance.

Since there are ways to reduce the taxes paid for every other activity I can think of I don't see a reason for there not to be a skill to reduce the tax paid for industry. 10%/level for a 50% reduction in taxes paid at NPC stations would mirror most of the other tax reduction skills such as Customs Code Expertise. A bit boring perhaps, but something everyone would agree with and follows the existing system.

One of my favorite indy changes was the ability to control research and production based solely on distance without being restricted by region. I'd love to see that range increased further, so a new skill the requires Adv Indy 5 and Supply Chain 5 that increases production management range by another 5 jumps per skill level would be awesome. Could make a matching skill that requires Adv Indy or Adv Lab Ops 5 and Scientific Networking 5 to increase research operation range by an additional 5 jumps per level too.

I haven't done any bidding for Teams but I think it'd be cool for there to be a skill for that. Perhaps something like 'Specialized Labor Contracting - Increases the value of your bids for Teams by 5% per level' so you bid 1mil and it would count for 1.25mil while only costing you the 1mil. Not sure how balanced that would be since I haven't really played with the Team Bidding system at all.

freighters warp speed increase - name of skill doesn`t matter some capital industrial warp drive operation or whatever.

Pack Rat : +5% capacity of standard and secure container

Advanced Pack Rat : +5% capacity of freight container (req PR 5)

Strategic Pack Rat : +5% capacity of siphon, tractor unit and mobile depot (req APR 5)

Corporate Hangar Mastery : +5% capacity of corporate hangar (req APR 5)

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While I think that being able to 'steal' copies of installed BP's is ridiculous and detremental to industry, you did give me an idea...

Eruptar Ambient had the idea of "Self Sufficient - 5% reduction on personal impact on cost index."

How about using 'Espionage' to increase the effect?

Not a fully fleshed out idea yet, but it could be used to increase the running costs and decrease the profit margins of rivals. Not exactly sure how this skill would/could be implemented, but the concept is interesting.

I second that there should defo be a skill for queing jobs because some invention timers are plain nightmare at the moment.

Remove this skill?

I'm very happy with the advanced industry skill. It has sped up my invention/copying which is a massive boost to me for invention and building from copies. Perhaps increase it to 4% if possible, although 3% is still a decent boost in my mind.