Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If they would implement a manufacturing queue, it would make all the new TE skills up in the air worth it. I know this isn't a little thing, but it is probably worthwhile for CCP to look at, as it would benefit sooo many and increase player support for new skills. There was already a manufacturing queue pre-Crius, it just also used a job "slot" from your skills. If they made it so that you could queue up on your own jobs (probably similar to how the skill queue operates) then it could really benefit players who don't have the time availability that some people do to log in at all times of the day. Also, it pushes the responsibility on the players, because if they are not using the bonuses it's their own fault, they can't blame it on anyone else.

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Also, to those who are saying the Scientific Networking skill was nerfed, it was a MASSIVE buff. I had it trained to 3 before Crius and will probably take it to 4 now. It was so annoying to have a skill that allowed research job start-ups 15 jobs away, but had a regional boundary 13 jumps away, so I had to travel 14 jumps to start the job in the next jump's solar system (assuming it was near my max range). Now, I can go anywhere near my home base and not have to take the massive time hit when the regional boundaries don't line up nicely. 15 jump range is approximate to 30 minutes of jumps which I don't have to take as often. Thank you CCP!!

Here are my two cents on the 3% per level to all industry jobs.

No advanced skill in the game that I know of gives extra bonuses to something its base skill(s) does not. Advanced Industry should require Industry, Research, Metallurgy, and Science to at least IV before it could be injected to stay consistent. Otherwise, Advanced Industry should be reworked to be more like Astrometrics , where Industry would be renamed to Manufacturing and Advanced Industry would be renamed to Industry, and give bonuses to all the others industry time skills.

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I've also thought of some considerations for the post Crius releases that should be taken into account, but that I don't think quite fit the topic of this original discussion. Here's a link to that thread.

I agree with the bonus but adding as a pre-req seems like a bad idea.
It will make it more difficult for new players to get into industry as many of the skills already have high and intense requirements which don't make sense.

Adding another rank 3 skill to them is not going to make it any better. Those of us who trained it in the past will survive, we don't need to make everyone else miserable just because some of us might have skipped training it to 5.

I would like to see a skill wich further increases the ability to use more manufacturing / researching slots.
For now you need multiple characters to generate a reasonable amount of profit
via industry wich are equally skilled and doing all the same.
As well you have to switch your characters (logging etc.).

If a single industry character wants to progress into large scale producing,
this would be a nice skilling option.
This will free up characterslots for other things/ways to do in New Eden, wich dont have to be the same.

Just wondering if people don't read through these forums. . .

I've seen about 10 post for extra slots or queue-able slots...

lol

edit - nvm. of 110 post, half seem to be ether for extra slots for queue-able slots!

must mean people are needing more slots so they can cut down on the amount of alts they have to run

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Thank you.

I am just going to throw out whatever comes to mind, be prepared for some really bad ideas.


---POS skills---
Player owned structures are becoming more important, thus I suggest skills for making better use of POSes.
* - Small POS fuel efficiency
* -- Medium POS fuel efficiency (preq is SPFE IV)
* --- Large POS fuel efficiency (preq is MPFE IV)

[Getting more powergrid and CPU from an race specific POS]
* Amarr POS Output
* Caldari POS Output
* Gallente POS Output
* Minmatar POS Output

[Improved racial POS bonusses]
* Amarr POS Management
* Caldari POS Management
* Gallente POS Management
* Minmatar POS Management


---Cost skills---
If CCP is going to make skills that reduce cost or materials, please make them heavy rank and specific to a type of product (this will prevent 'must have' skills). The best way to do this is to link such skills to science/datacore names, some examples:

* Graviton Manufacturing [tiny bonus to production of items linked to Graviton Physics]
* Caldari Starship Manufacturing ["" Caldari Starship Engineering]


---Cargo skills---
These will help to make some activities more mobile.
* Starship Packaging [Ships take up less volume in the cargo hold]
* Structure Packaging [Structures (Deploy/Starbase/Sov) take up less volume in the cargo hold]
* Material Packaging [Industrial materials take up less volume in the cargo hold, if possible]
* Module & Rig Packaging [Rigs and equipment take up less volume in the cargo hold]
* etc
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* Cargo Smuggling [The higher the skill the lower percentage of cargo will be detected by NPC and player cargo scans.]


---Other skills---
* Hidden Industry [Your jobs have less influence on the system index]

* Serial Job Planning [Skill to make improved use of Advanced Industry skill. It does this by linking multiple jobs into one chain job, the maximum length of the queue depends on the skill level (suggested 1 day per level)]

* Navy Infrigement [small chance to invent a navy faction BPC during T2 invention]

* Blueprint Copy Joining [The number of identical BPCs that can be joined together at a time, to a single BPC with the sum of the runs.]

I'm very sorry if it bothers you whenever more people express similar opinions or desires.

However Greyscale called for a feedback and given that CCP is currently re-working invention, it's reasonable and well-timed to ask for more industry jobs per character, queueing, ect. And seeing multiple posts about certain features only shows that there is a desire to have them implemented.






Could you please elaborate more why you think having it tied to a skill is a bad idea? I'm interested.
I always though it makes sense given inventions are intensive on skill points and if you dedicated your character down this path (if I recall correctly it takes about 2 months to be reasonably proficient in inventions), you certainly can afford an additional skill.

It can even be logically implemented: Each level of said skill gives ability to queue one extra run per invention job, up to max_runs_of_T2_BPC / 2. So at level 5, for modules (which have 10 runs T2 BPCs), you can queue 5 additional invention attempts behind one T1 BPC.

Interesting. I've just went through the thread and can't seem to find anyone from CCP mentioning or rulling queueing out. Could you please provide a link to that specific post? I would like to know more.