EVE General Discussion

@CCP Execs (who wont read this anyway, corporate shenanegans are the same everywhere.)


I know businesses well enough to know that at some point only amputation helps getting things back shipshape.

BUT this is not the first "restructuring" we see here. Since 2009 or so you guys should have learned that you're not a small shop anymore and have seen to get people aboard who know how to manage larger companies. It appears to me that this didnt happen.

We saw a lot of things happening at Dev-Levels, some amongst them good (jesus-features, etc.) some meh, but well i think dev works got a lot better in the last two years.

However CCP in its current state reeks of middlemanagement and c-level-bs. Knowing the phenomenon from my own career, this is usually the result of fast growth without c-levels arriving in that reality. So a ton of middlemanagement is recruited to buffer from the harshnesses that come with not being an operation out of a gardenshed anymore.
Middlemanagement wants to keep their jobs, so everything gets filtered. Voilà Eastern Block Syndrome where the head doesnt know of the festering boil that develops at the knee; simply because the middlemanagement belly is blocking sight and communications.

If you have a valid strategy, by all means, do what you need to do.
If that includes cutting some lard from the staff, well see that theyre taken care of, to look at least like an employer with some humanity.
If that includes axing the complete managerial staff and executive level, call the bloodraiders.
If it means for a lot higherups who have been there from the start to let loose the reins, guys, let them loose.
While the loss of power may be something unpleasent, doing so is amongst the greatest bragging materials ever.
And it hurts much less than running the project you spend short of two decades at in the ground.

DO NOT FCUK THIS UP.

DO NOT BREAK THE PRODUCTION LINE FOR YOUR CLIENTS FAVOURITE TOYS AND YOUR ONLY PRODUCT.

The gaming industry has seen too many studios shutting down recently after cutting everything down to a skeleton operation. That is not a good meme.

Thank you.

Edit: Damn tablet autocorrect bs.

I've actually read some pretty interesting things about how Valve (gaben) runs things and most of them have sounded pretty cool/fair tbh.

I can't say the same thing about CCP. In fact, I don't think I've seen any positive "industry" write-ups about CCP or it's work environment/culture, whereas I have seen such about the bigger and well known software dev companies.

And James A-K, there might be some who are overreacting. But I don't think I see a lot of responses from people seeming surprised about this most recent wrinkle in the tale of ambulations downfall (and other things it drags down). I see more people sadly resigned to having expected something like this already. The part that does bother a bit is the likelihood that the whole "mea culpa" and "we'll do better" etc etc etc was fabricated. Is that surprising? No (also sadly), but it is greatly disappointing.

The amount of players online stagnated after dipping with Incarna and bouncing up with Crucible, and now it's going down. It's easy to guess that less players online means that they also aren't paying subscriptions and so CCP is losing revenue.

These days, seeing Kronos launch, I've been under a strong impression of living a Crucible event -CCP doing the 110% and getting players back to the game after rough weather... But the cold hard fact is that PCU in May has been 7,000 players below that of 2013. Mind you, it's 7,000 out of 35,000 just one year ago, or 20% less players.

And the question is: what else can CCP do? Kronos is a great patch, but certainly I will not resub any of my accounts over it, nor over Crius, nor over anything they've planned to release until 2016.

And people call me crazy....

I been crowing about this for years.

You heard it here first, CCP inflated the price of Tritanium to get more PLEX sales.

Temporarily locked for some cleanup.

Okay, false alarm. Removed a post for rumor mongering and attacks against a CCP employee. Thread unlocked.

Will CCP be issuing a statement about the accusations leveled against it by some departing and departed staff in the gaming media? Or at least allow us a thread to discuss it without said thread being locked as 'rumor' no matter that it's being reported in the media as 'fact'?

A feature that has been requested many, many times and which has no drawbacks.


Normal, especially in the wake of a cancelled project.


This is not new. CCP has had incentives for returning players before.


I can't even think of any downside to this, and there are plenty of upsides. It's certainly not indicative of a dying game or a failing company.


The same number of tickets are available as before. They've all sold before and they'll all sell again. This doesn't make them any more money.
The cash shop has been in the game for almost three years now. There's no reason not to have cosmetic microtransactions. Putting this as a detractor is dumb.

Very sad to hear about the layoffs and hope everyone effected moves on to successful endeavors.



Pretty sure we don't need an official response from CCP, as we know who will actually be writing it.

I truly hope this is the end of layoffs. It sounded like there was some deep internal issues within CCP and hopefully those left are a cohesive bunch. They need to get profitable, they do no one any good if they go under or continuously struggle. Did senior management screw up.... Big time. But many companies may have never recovered from an "Incarna", CCP did. Hopefully there have been some egos trimmed (if not slashed) at the senior level, and the next shiny they see will be dealt with accordingly.

All of CCP deserve huge credit for Eve. I just hope there are enough of the right people left.

Reading things into an 'ambiguous' post is never a good sign. It's probably time to take a step back; the negativity seems to be affecting you.