EVE General Discussion

Here is what's true. CCP has given up on WiS and the team mentioned in the thread's title has been disbanded. Nowhere in CCP Seagull's plan for the next several years of Eve development is further WiS development mentioned.

The fact that you can't let it go, while amusing, is a little sad to witness.

"CCP has given up on WiS" is an assumption you're making based on evidence that while supporting it, It doesn't prove it. You're not any more privy to CCP's internal agenda and long term goals than the rest of us, therefore, you're incapable of stating this as fact.

"The team mentioned in this threads title has been disbanded." While being a true statement, Those of us that think rationally are capable of realizing it isn't exactly an impossibility to build a team for a project when it comes time to work on it.

"Nowhere in CCP Seagull's plan for the next several years of Eve development is further WiS development mentioned." While also true, I'm sure there are lots of things that will happen in the next 5 years that haven't been mentioned. It's a little ridiculous to think otherwise. But just in case that's not enough to prove that your argument isn't at all as bulletproof as you've convinced yourself it is, CCP Seagull is the Senior producer of EVE Online. Not CCP. Valkyrie, Dust, Legion, are all absent from Seagulls vision for the future. This is not because they're not a part of it, It's because she does EVE Online stuff while the Senior Producers for the other projects work on those. As several of us have pointed out, it's not likely that WiS will be a direct piece of EVE online, but more likely it will be part of Legion or it's own product to bridge the gap between the three games in a social environment making it very possible for it to not be anywhere in Seagulls 5 year plan and still be a definite possibility. But if even that's not enough for you to concede that your argument is leagues away from being perfect and sound, CCP Seagull still takes orders from people higher up than she is. If CCP has proven anything, it's that things change, sometimes without warning.

the consciousness transfer technology was originally separate from the jovian capsule, it was the combination of the two that led to the capsuleer. the valk guys won't need the pod 'cos from what i seen they'll use sticks

Well technically we already do that, it's not new to games. When you go from WiS to FiS, your WiS character is transformed into a space ship. This is often representative of an 'actor' entry and the info stored on a database.

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

Too bad you can't discuss this without deliberately trying to provoke personal insults which just causes ISD to butcher the threads.

According to CCP falcon there are two fundamentally different technologies at work here, the pod/capsule interface is superior at transferring consciousness than the templar/Valkyrie interface, he compares it to the difference between ethernet and wi fi. The range is effectively unlimited for the capsule but limited to the battlefield for the others. To two implant/interface types are not cross compatible hence the need for different types of clones for different circumstances, soft clones for station life, hardened clones for irradiated areas, battlefield clones for combat ops.

I look forward to giving them all a try.

Escape pods are still nice tho, capsule now not practical very much, being closed in it 90% of the time, and now being able to freely disconnect and walk around the ship is good :D, but still capsule real advantage is the survival, so escape pods are essential.

Keep in mind that the capsuleer tech is rather bulky, the scanning arrays take up quite a lot of mass in your pod.
It's not exactly unstable (unless someone tampered with your clone-bay), but weird stuff can happen (see Jamyl Sarums interesting "house guest" inside her head).

The reverse engineered sleeper technology used in the Dust soldiers is already far more compact (it's basically a large implant near the brain-stem).

The Valkyrie technology doesn't even need that any more, as they can obviously grab someone's consciousness from their dying body at a distance during a bloody dogfight, which to be honest is bloody spectacular.

You can easily de-pod, even on board a ship, you just need a crew to take over the functions your brain normally regulates automatically. Capsuleer ships do tend to have far smaller crews because we control so many of the ship systems by ourselves.

de-podding will limit the functionality of your ship dramatically, as a capsuleer can respond to threats and actions far quicker than a full human crew could.

The pod is also partially for your own protection, the neural feedback from the ship causes you to thrash about a little and being submerged in a liquid medium prevents injury (read the description of several boosters for references to this).
Again, this is probably fixed with the Valkyrie version, but the reduced feedback may impact the responsiveness of the pilot.

The tears of genolution pod implant owners would extinguish the sun.

The lore is a character in its own right, the game world has to absolutely support your actions otherwise the game won't make any sense.

Don't be so quick to trample on the lore, without it eve is just a space rts game, with it, it's a science fiction simulator.