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Is the Naga dead to you, or are you still excited for it?

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hanzyfranzy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2011-12-01 00:59:58 UTC
My tech II railguns have been waiting for this glorious day.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#202 - 2011-12-01 01:19:25 UTC
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?
Katabrok First
Apukaray Security
#203 - 2011-12-01 02:06:46 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:


Are you referring to my real age or my Eve age which you so parade around here? I get better completion times with my CNR with rigors compared to my Rokh and I don't agree with what you said. Maybe I can't fly a turret boat well. Maybe you can't fly a missile boat well. So if I don't agree with you you'd call me out on my age?Anyways,all I did say was your missile skills didn't suck and you STILL have a problem with it? Roll

Anyways, not gonna reply further. Fly safe,old man. o7


Ok, just to set the record straight, sorry if I appeared pedantic or the truth owner, it wasn't my intention. I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes what I think in portuguese doesn't comes out good in english. What I meant to ask was how long you've been playing. Because in old times, a raven was expensive, and a CNR was the stuff of legend. We didn't had rigs then, and it was hard killing small stuff with cruises. We had to use our mids only for tank, so we didn't even fit target painters (no rigs, remember?). With the Rokh we could kill small stuff while they were approaching, faster than using cruise missiles. Today I agree, it is a subpar mission ship.

Was I clear? Really sorry man for the negative idea I passed.

Cheers,
Kata

Ps.: I know you said you wouldn't reply anymore, but just tell me we are friends now. Big smile
Khrage
#204 - 2011-12-01 05:45:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Khrage
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?


^troll/blind/forgetful

One of the most caldari ships out there is a BC, called the Drake. It's a better ship than the earlier version of the Naga would have been.

Though I have lost some interest in the Naga since that many torps would be way too much fun (not necessarily good) - have not lost complete interest in it however. The Naga is now the best over 150km sniper in the game. Very few things are going to be able to catch you, let alone have any tank left if they do, short of a good scanner.

Really looking forward to seeing more of the T3 BCs out in space since they are going to make great fireworks. Of other ships and themselves.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#205 - 2011-12-01 09:28:19 UTC
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?

By your logic the Ferox is also Gallente.
And the Rokh.
And the Moa.
And the Osprey.
And the Merlin.
And the Bantam.
And the Cormorant.
etc & navy variants.

No, people. This is wrong. Clearly the Naga is the first Caldari ship to use hybrids. Why would any Caldari pilots have any SP in hybrids / turrets?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#206 - 2011-12-01 09:49:03 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?

By your logic the Ferox is also Gallente.
And the Rokh.
And the Moa.
And the Osprey.
And the Merlin.
And the Bantam.
And the Cormorant.
etc & navy variants.

No, people. This is wrong. Clearly the Naga is the first Caldari ship to use hybrids. Why would any Caldari pilots have any SP in hybrids / turrets?


I dare you to name a Caldari Navy Ship having a hybrid bonus or being made for hybrid , not unlike some Caldari players The Caldari Navy doesn't use hybrid turrets, making an even bigger case as to why missiles are a primairy weapon system to Caldari at least.

Tanaka Hobbitus
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#207 - 2011-12-01 10:02:54 UTC
Quick query -

Has anyone tried one in PvP yet?
or is this just commentary based on EFT and the fact that it got changed from its original design.

If CCP changed it, I would assume it was because they wanted to give some players something different.

If it is a mini Rokh then perhaps its designed to be an entry level version so that players can get used to the role of a sniper whilst buying a ship which is more than half the price of a Rokh (based on Jita pricing)?

Inturist
Nuclear Reactor
RED.OverLord
#208 - 2011-12-01 10:09:58 UTC
Well , i'm also expected Naga to be an 8 missile boat \o/ !!! i tested in on SISI , liked it !!! But after patch i noticed That ccp removed missiles :(

Well , let;s see : we have 8 slots for ( large weapons ) Autocanos , artillery , blasters , railguns , beam lasers , pulse lasers , but we don't have an 8 missile boat :( , well , we do have one , which is raven state issue which is only few in game and if u will be lucky and someone will decide to sell it - 150+bil ???!!!

I'm not complaining , but it would be lovely if CCP would consider to make an 8 missile slot ship . Atleast make it 8 cruise missile boat or something .
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#209 - 2011-12-01 10:28:12 UTC
The naga looks like a pretty nice ship.

It does really, really good damage at range. It's actually a decent caldari rail platform that will be viable in a small gang. Blasters go pretty nicely on it, too.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#210 - 2011-12-01 10:37:46 UTC

Tanaka Hobbitus wrote:
Quick query -

Has anyone tried one in PvP yet?
or is this just commentary based on EFT and the fact that it got changed from its original design.



I think it's more the lack of a missile platform than it's on the Naga it self. common responce to that is that missile suck in PVP.

What ever happens, I think someone at CCP should try to make clear what they want with the missile platform or keep it as a secondairy weapon systems people keep telling me it was once intended for.

are they going to fix it, are they going to sell it as a PVE weapon only, although heavies and rockets seem to do fine in PvP, or keep it as a secondairy weapon systems people keep telling me it was once intended for, though at the moment there are more Caldari missile platforms then there are Hybrid platforms.

Which explains the great number of relatively new players that are more specialiced in Missiles then hybrids.

When making the step to gunnery it usualy ends up more intresting to use an other platform then hybrids. projectile/artillery for example opens up ships that can be used better/ faster than the Caldari hybrid platforms. the only Caldari frigates I see (I'm in lowsec) are Hookbills sometimes a Merlin, a Hawk and sometimes a Harpy.

but opening Minmatar frigates opens up way more ships which are superior and al it takes is 4 a 5 days of extra training, about 1 day to puch it to Minmatar frigats to 4.

I don't know when this Caldari change to missiles as a so called primairy weapon came but with all easy and the not so "cookies" being missile platforms, it is there.
Sunviking
Doomheim
#211 - 2011-12-01 11:19:12 UTC
I have to say, that I am pleased with the Naga. I don't have one yet, but will soon.

It is a great way for CCP to showcase the Railgun boost, and gives me another reason to train Hybrids, which are already part of my skill training plan.

10% damage boost to Railguns, plus the 25% damage bonus the Naga has, makes it a truly fearsome ship at long range.

After all, Caldari are the long-range fighting race, and the Naga encourages players to really adopt that tactic, which is what we are supposed to be doing with Caldari anyway.
Onictus
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#212 - 2011-12-01 13:01:58 UTC
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?



Please, I'd rather fly a Naga to be honest, Talos simply doesn't impress me.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#213 - 2011-12-01 13:34:25 UTC
Katabrok First wrote:

Ok, just to set the record straight, sorry if I appeared pedantic or the truth owner, it wasn't my intention. I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes what I think in portuguese doesn't comes out good in english. What I meant to ask was how long you've been playing. Because in old times, a raven was expensive, and a CNR was the stuff of legend. We didn't had rigs then, and it was hard killing small stuff with cruises. We had to use our mids only for tank, so we didn't even fit target painters (no rigs, remember?). With the Rokh we could kill small stuff while they were approaching, faster than using cruise missiles. Today I agree, it is a subpar mission ship.

Was I clear? Really sorry man for the negative idea I passed.

Cheers,
Kata

Ps.: I know you said you wouldn't reply anymore, but just tell me we are friends now. Big smile


I'm sorry about what happened in forums the other day. Looking back at what I wrote I could have also been a little more discerning concerning what I wrote. No need to apologise at all, it was as much my fault as anyone's .

I'm not very old in-game about eight months in. What you had to share about the game was very insightful and I didn't know about the CNR being that expensive. I guess 'm just spoilt now because the ISK is so easy!

Once again,really sorry about all the negative vibes.
Hope there are no hard feelings. Big smile

o7
Jake
Herring
Infinatech
#214 - 2011-12-01 13:42:42 UTC
Personally I would have loved the torp spec naga. I can see the gunnery people needing some love, but it'd be nice to address the problems with BS sized missile systems also rather than sweeping them under the rug like they did.

If I flew any of them it'd probably be the oracle.
Katabrok First
Apukaray Security
#215 - 2011-12-02 00:23:43 UTC
Jake, no hard feelings and I'm glad we understood each other...

o7
Fly safe,
Kata
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#216 - 2011-12-02 09:21:31 UTC
The Naga is fantastic, and in my opinion easily the "best" of the four for small gangs.

It can be used in a wide variety of forms, puts out respectable to insane damage at a large variety of ranges depending on fit and can actually have something which resembles a tank.

In short, naga; it's good (tm)
Salvia Olima
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#217 - 2011-12-02 09:44:03 UTC
IMHO Naga should have launcher hardpoints. Torps for brawling, bonused cruise for ranged attack.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#218 - 2011-12-02 10:21:56 UTC
Salvia Olima wrote:
IMHO Naga should have launcher hardpoints. Torps for brawling, bonused cruise for ranged attack.

why? to make it useless??
Beshenui
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#219 - 2011-12-02 13:22:29 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Salvia Olima wrote:
IMHO Naga should have launcher hardpoints. Torps for brawling, bonused cruise for ranged attack.

why? to make it useless??

to make perfect!!!! cruise missile give huge range wich covers the main drawback - weak defences
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#220 - 2011-12-02 13:37:21 UTC
It already has huge range. Why would it be better with missile flight time and horrible explosion velocity on cruise missiles?