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Is the Naga dead to you, or are you still excited for it?

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Khrage
#241 - 2011-12-05 16:37:25 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
We took a fleet of sniper BC3s out, success was had!

http://shadowcartel.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24765

Note that we had 3 of the 4 BC3s in gang (the talos is not so great as a sniper, so it was absent).

The nagas did great, they won't outdamage Oracles or Tornadoes on carrier killmails, but they sit firmly in the middle ground of alpha/dps. To boot, they easily have the best tank (or you can be crazy and fit an ewar module here and there).

All in all the new BCs are pretty fantastic in this role, and will probably soon be nerfed (5 guardians and a triage carrier couldn't stop us from popping abaddons, let alone if we fired on a guardian)


^this.

esspecially in the BC3 sniper gangs they won't be the ones primaried either when paired with the other races due to its better tank and simply because the Tornado right now is considered the most dangerous out of the bunch. quite frankly this thread should be asking whether gallente pilots are mad thier BC3 doesn't stack up to the other in the role they are best in.
Foofad
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#242 - 2011-12-06 00:18:21 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
We took a fleet of sniper BC3s out, success was had!

http://shadowcartel.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=24765

Note that we had 3 of the 4 BC3s in gang (the talos is not so great as a sniper, so it was absent).

The nagas did great, they won't outdamage Oracles or Tornadoes on carrier killmails, but they sit firmly in the middle ground of alpha/dps. To boot, they easily have the best tank (or you can be crazy and fit an ewar module here and there).

All in all the new BCs are pretty fantastic in this role, and will probably soon be nerfed (5 guardians and a triage carrier couldn't stop us from popping abaddons, let alone if we fired on a guardian)


How were the BC3s fit?
dethleffs
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#243 - 2011-12-06 11:29:02 UTC
Foofad wrote:


How were the BC3s fit?


not telling oohhtrolololololo.

seriously, it's not hard to figure out since we already said "sniping" and "60km"..
Cadava Mendosa
#244 - 2011-12-06 13:53:17 UTC
just how good IS the tank ?
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#245 - 2011-12-06 15:32:23 UTC
Its not brilliant, anything between 25 and 50k ehp depending on ship and specific fit IMO. They said they were going to be glass cannons and thats exactly what they are.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#246 - 2011-12-06 17:07:00 UTC
Ingvar Angst wrote:
From what they're saying, CCP has nerfed the torpedos right out of the Naga, rendering it solely a gunboat now. Personally, my only interest in it was as a torpedo platform... with this change I personally have completely lost interest in the ship. This isn't a whine or complaint... it simply isn't a direction I wish to go in.

How about the rest of you... you prefer the Naga as solely a gunboat, or are your dreams of a torpedo launcher now as dead as your interest in the ship?


Naga please.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Absolom Hues
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#247 - 2011-12-06 20:51:57 UTC
Since I am both Gallente & Caldari skilled... I compared the Naga to the Talos.. and IMHO the Naga is a better blaster ship than the Talos. My conclusion is based on the lows of the Talos are filled with armor tank modules, but the Naga can use the lows for Hybrid weapon enhancements. The results is the Naga can have a higher rated dps & tank.
Talos does have drones that can be used on smaller ships... so it does have that advantage. Talos can also tackle a bit better using both warp scram & web which can result in better application of it's dps.

I do like having 20km optimal with the blaster fitted Naga. Take into consideration... I have not applied these fits to actual PvP yet.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#248 - 2011-12-06 23:55:27 UTC
Vincent Gaines wrote:
Eva Blacklist wrote:
For me,the excitement of the expansion was the Naga plus torpedoes. To be frank, if I wanted a gun-based boat it would be the Oracle (which is major sexy). It appears the management of CCP continues to be out-of-touch with a part of its player base.


The Naga is now competitive instead of another lolCaldari ship.

CCP has listened to a long neglected, much larger part of its playerbase and a huge part of Caldari/Gallente gameplay.

You don't know this because you started playing eve around the time hybrids became completely useless.

I don't know how to explain this.. it's like trying to explain life before the internet to a person under 20. There's a whole big part of Caldari and Gallente playstyles that has been left behind and finally brought to the forefront.



^^^^^^ This

+1

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#249 - 2011-12-07 04:32:42 UTC
60km nagas are multiply shield extended, Invul II, sebo and 3 magstabs (and probably 350's). But you can also go a 425mm fit with full gank no tank and land 980DPS at 85km. Or 540DPS at 250km if you really want to be out of the danger zone in a nice snipers calm.

The sniper Naga is the shiz.
Misanthra
Alternative Enterprises
#250 - 2011-12-07 05:59:33 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
All in all the new BCs are pretty fantastic in this role, and will probably soon be nerfed (5 guardians and a triage carrier couldn't stop us from popping abaddons, let alone if we fired on a guardian)




nah....logistics according to many was getting out of hand. Now more "portable" damage on hand to push beyond reps/transfers. Could be a good balance to that. Portable in that these move around a bit easier than a bs.

Less logi, more tier 3 bc counter fire all good. make eve a better place long run imo with more fighting and less repping.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#251 - 2011-12-07 10:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
Trinkets friend wrote:
60km nagas are multiply shield extended, Invul II, sebo and 3 magstabs (and probably 350's). But you can also go a 425mm fit with full gank no tank and land 980DPS at 85km. Or 540DPS at 250km if you really want to be out of the danger zone in a nice snipers calm.

The sniper Naga is the ****.


Confirming i just took part in the killing of a bunch of BCs in amamake top belt with my naga doing over 10k damage on most of the KMs with a naga. So far its my fave of all the new BCs.

And one of the kills was a Tornado and another a Talos.

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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#252 - 2011-12-10 01:34:07 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?



Please, I'd rather fly a Naga to be honest, Talos simply doesn't impress me.


As you say, 2 Gallente boats............Smile
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#253 - 2011-12-10 15:45:45 UTC
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Naga is in fact a Gallente ship.......
When is Caldari going to make a BC?



Please, I'd rather fly a Naga to be honest, Talos simply doesn't impress me.


As you say, 2 Gallente boats............Smile


Two Caldari boats. P