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[Kronos] Pirate Faction Cruisers

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Tertiacero
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-04-07 16:02:01 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:

Role Bonus:
75% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage



Don't think we didn't see this because we did

These are very good, I have a stash of faction ships in Jita waiting for all these changes to go live, nicely done.
Capqu
Half Empty
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#22 - 2014-04-07 16:04:18 UTC
can you make a pirate cruiser that has 10 second reload on rapid lights tia in advance

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Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#23 - 2014-04-07 16:05:45 UTC
Wow 500% bonus on that Gila. I'm very interested to get in that thing and try it out! Any thought as to how fast a 100MN Phantasm goes with the bonus?

Overall, these ships are looking pretty exciting. Still high on cost, but exciting nonetheless.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-04-07 16:06:50 UTC
interdasting...
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#25 - 2014-04-07 16:07:55 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
Capqu wrote:
can you make a pirate cruiser that has 10 second reload on rapid lights tia in advance


can you make a rapid light that lets me kill active tanked ships again

namely by reducing the loading time a lot

thanks rise

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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2014-04-07 16:08:10 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
So under AB power the Phantasm will go approximately 1km/s without any nanos, links, boosters, implants, etc... I wonder how fast it'll go with a 100mn AB....


Max skills, no links/boosters/implants/fitting/etc = 2705m/s

@ccp_rise
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-04-07 16:08:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Makari Aeron
Uh.....you just killed the Gila.

EDIT:

Now that I"m over my initial "wtf" moment....I will admit that the damage from the Gila is going to be pretty nice. I'm just not a fan of medium drones. How I PvP (when I PvP) was at long range with sentries. I liked the Gila because it was a shield tanked cruiser....which meant excellent align time. I could simply pull in drones and leave. Now I get to sacrifice two of my drones to get away. Gila is probably going to take a final trip back up to hisec (while packaged) where it can be a trophy ship.

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El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#28 - 2014-04-07 16:09:07 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
Makari Aeron wrote:

Uh.....you just killed the Gila.


you're mentally defective lmao

12 (twelve) effective drones + missiles damage bonus + resist bonus = dead anything

but oh no it cant use sentries any more!!!

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-04-07 16:09:46 UTC
Dat gila
Ashley Animus
7th Temporal Lounge
#30 - 2014-04-07 16:10:20 UTC
So the gila has a bonus to missiles. No specific ones, just all sizes of missiles?
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#31 - 2014-04-07 16:11:12 UTC
hey rise why do you hate me so much

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Viribus
Lords of the Lockerroom
WE FORM YUG0SLAVIA
#32 - 2014-04-07 16:11:27 UTC
Hey remember when you guys introduced tier 3 BCs and no one ever saw Cynabals again? Then all those t1 cruiser buffs, navy cruiser buffs, and HAC buffs? Good thing the Cynabal's getting a nerf, it's such a terrifying and viable ship currently (this is sarcasm)

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Aglais
Ice-Storm
#33 - 2014-04-07 16:11:48 UTC
...How's the Gila going to deal with smaller ships, with only medium drones being bonused? It's already at a huge disadvantage at defending itself as such because lol HMLs/AMLs.

Very interested in trying out both Gurista ships revealed so far, regardless. Also the Phantasm.
ZoRDO ShoD
F Warfare
#34 - 2014-04-07 16:12:25 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
The Vigilant bonus was a typo, it's fixed now: MEDIUM hybrid.

The Gila bonus is not a typo, 500%.
Errrr, so how much dps will it dish out with a flight of medium drones now? give or take a few?

Oh, and nice changes, though im not a big fan of the pg nerf on the cynabal
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#35 - 2014-04-07 16:12:57 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
Viribus wrote:
Hey remember when you guys introduced tier 3 BCs and no one ever saw Cynabals again? Then all those t1 cruiser buffs, navy cruiser buffs, and HAC buffs? Good thing the Cynabal's getting a nerf, it's such a terrifying and viable ship currently (this is sarcasm)


viribus u need to stop taking ur sarcasmos

Aglais wrote:
...How's the Gila going to deal with smaller ships, with only medium drones being bonused? It's already at a huge disadvantage at defending itself as such because lol HMLs/AMLs.

Very interested in trying out both Gurista ships revealed so far, regardless. Also the Phantasm.


medium faction valkyries will go at 6km/s (that's faster than a linked interceptor) and track very well and has a bonus perfect for RLMLs

i don't think it'll have a problem with small ships

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Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#36 - 2014-04-07 16:13:10 UTC
120 radius, hefty afterburner bonus, 890 base grid, now with 5 lows.

In before quite viable armor phantasm. Cool

I doth approve.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#37 - 2014-04-07 16:15:33 UTC
Aglais wrote:
...How's the Gila going to deal with smaller ships, with only medium drones being bonused? It's already at a huge disadvantage at defending itself as such because lol HMLs/AMLs.

Very interested in trying out both Gurista ships revealed so far, regardless. Also the Phantasm.


I believe if you put on and overheat the drone omnidirectional tracking unit, it should be able to hit (or swap out valkyries).

The dronebays enough to cover potential light ship harassment.

I see the prices of these ships going up.. 100%.

Overall.. they seem like there fine changes.. though that afterburner bonus is going to be nuts (scram no stop it, you better double/triple web the thing...)

I won't go on the "WTF Did you DO NERF IT" bandwagon as of yet.. though I will if for some odd reason they manage to fit a 100mn afterburner on.. .a cruiser..

Yaay!!!!
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#38 - 2014-04-07 16:16:53 UTC
Phantasm is underwhelming ..
its dps is a little weak ... granted 5 lows opens up options..
its base speed isn't very impressive either
could do with lower sig radius too..

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#39 - 2014-04-07 16:18:22 UTC
ZoRDO ShoD wrote:
CCP Rise wrote:
The Vigilant bonus was a typo, it's fixed now: MEDIUM hybrid.

The Gila bonus is not a typo, 500%.
Errrr, so how much dps will it dish out with a flight of medium drones now? give or take a few?

Oh, and nice changes, though im not a big fan of the pg nerf on the cynabal



2 mediums doing 500% more damage..... equal, if not a little better.

The bonus here isn't the damage.. its the hit points. 500% more hit points on medium drones make them MUCH more resilient.. i bet more susceptible to focus fire (but hey that's why you have spares).

I'm liking the drone changes so far, more acceptable than spam a zillion drones out, also making the drone-bay more targetted (which is a good thing).

Yaay!!!!
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#40 - 2014-04-07 16:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Michael Harari
Still no real reason to fly a cynabal over other equivalent options.

Also 90% webs still broken.