Missions & Complexes

Your joking right?

If not, you should probably go see a doctor and discontinue playing EVE for the time being to deal with the psychological trauma causing you nighmares, and stop making your RSI worse by playing a game that aggravates it.

Just saying.

Please review my suggestion here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4263311#post4263311

Since it seems CCP will be making a change to the hack/spew mechanics, but are seemingly still undecided on some of the specifics, now is the time to make suggestions/proposals to help inform those from a community perspective.

Personally, I dont think "remove the minigame" attitudes are constuctive or conducive to a better game or mechanics.

The anti-spew camp has three main argument positions:
1) The sites involve too many minigames. First probing, then hacking, and finally spew. Fair enough argument, but to me atleast, its clear that if those factors are reduced, it will directly translate to lower rewards. Because less effort/risk is always equal to less reward. Frankly, data/relic sites are already quite low reward. Im wary of the commensurate consequences of making the sites easier by removing spew, which to me, would directly translate to lower rewards as well.

2) Im genuinely (no troll intended) surprised by how many people seem to have real dexterity issues with actually completing the spew mechanic. I dont think these people are lying or exaggerating, I take them at their word that it really is apparently hard for them. Coming from an RTS background, the manual dexterity required is trivial to me, but I am perhaps setting the nominal standard too high. My suggestion aims to mitigate that for those people, while still rewarding appropriately those who do take the rime and effort to do the spew game as well.

3) Hardware and connection related concerns, such as the small and stacked nature of rhe spew (which do however disperse geometrically as the spew spreads out). Also the fact that the spew is not indicated in overview but instead requires attention on the actual star field (which is unusual for EVE in many ways, which I personally like, but I understand others have limitations regarding small screen size etc). An indirect but workable solution would be making the spew cans detectable and selectable through the Overview so that people can accurately identify the cans and their distance for better retrieval.

I am now quite excited for fanfest!

With all due respect, the micro required for spew retrieval is nothing like an FPS. It is however quite similar to RTS.

Primary is camera positioning so you can observe the cans without them being cluttered so you can distinguish which are of interest to you. As the cans spread you progresively zoom out using mousewheel or r/l button panning. Also positoning camera sothere are no light sources or light colored objects behind the spew that make reading the can identifiers difficult.

Once you have identified and selected the first can, you have about 5s to hover over the rest to find the next can of interest and to click it, once. While the previous and the qued selection are enacted, you again have about 5s to peruse the remaining cans dor the next simple single click selection. And so forth until the cans despawn.

I understand that this may be difficult for some, though I cant relate to it. But Ill take these people at their word that it is indeed hard for them and try to suggest solutions in light of that.

I dont see the relevance. Could you explain please?

All I see is a a huge number of elements which defy relevance, such as it being a separate game, separate client/server interaction system, having PvP implications whereas spew looting has absolutely none, as well as the author himself recommending that it is the onus of the player to ensure they have a connection capable of playing an online game with.

AUS connections are famously poor due to their geographic isolation and lack of data pipelines off the island to the rest of the world. Same is true of South Africa. Also true that internet service providers in both these countries are gouging the hell out of their clients with bandwidth/up-download quotas. But that is neither EVE nor the rest of the worlds concern, nor should it be more than a marginal consideration in terms of game mechanics.

Don't forget that in wormholes there's no such thing as no npcs on site, so you have to kill those aswell before you can start even with the hacking.
Or even a site that triggers more npcs after you hack some cans. Even with perfect alt and implants and 2 guys on the can, I occasionaly miss a can.

And above let's not forget in wormholes the cans are completely random, so you HAVE to pick them all.

Good riddance to this nonsense confetti containers

Badges? We dont need no stinking badges!...

But seriously guys no need for her to wear an id all you have to do is look for the prettiest lady there.

So he is she? Shame i can't afford plane to Iceland...



Its not annoying, and i hope Devs expand it.

Any change to keep the spew mechanic optional for players who like it?


Some scripts you have to add to your hacking module can handle this.

1.) Focused Hacking Script: direct access to loot, lower reward
2.) Scattering Hacking Script: spews containers, higher reward
3.) no script: 50/50


The mechanic itself is good, but annoying to do this every time, so let the player decide.

I found the lewt spew a fun part of exploration :(

I enjoyed the risk factor.