Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They'll be more fun too. 40 second reloads are super fun.

Did Drone Upgrade modules need to be adjusted? Obviously, that answer is 'yes.'

That said, the proper time to do it would be when you are finally getting around to balancing DRONES!

The modules that affect something as complex as drone mechanics need to be adjusted in conjunction with the drone mechanics themselves, instead of independently.

Stop patching stuff in bits & pieces, and do the job right, or don't touch it all.

No way to see drone control range in drone window;
drone control window does not display even dps for drone groups;
drone control window is so old.. I came to eve in 2010, this window hasn't seen any sensible changes since that time, at the very least;
drone control mechanics desperately need to be revamped...

Yet instead of doing some real updates you just go through boost/nerf cycle once more. Making sentry based doctrines a de-facto standard way to pvp for every fleet. You could at least try to modify the modules without boosting or nerfing anything, keeping them on the same level (like: with script = as was before).
They're not badly balanced and not too weak, damn you, their control mechanics are just too old and ugly.

Do you ever plan to fix the bug where bonuses from skills, ship bonuses and omnidirectional tracking links are ignored when you use "show info" on your deployed drones?

I don't like this change, clearly the only possible solution is to call for fozzie to be fired from the company and imply that all of CCP are taking drugs! SUCH A REASONABLE LINE OF ARGUMENT THEY CANNOT POSSIBLY LISTEN TO REASON!

I KNOW MORE ABOUT PVP THAT CCP FOZZIE THEREFOR MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN HIS!

AND THIS IS CHEWBACCA, HE IS A WOOKIEE FROM THE PLANET KASHYYYK! BUT CHEWBACCA LIVES ON ENDOR! THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! AND THEREFOR NOTHING SHOULD CHANGE ABOUT THIS MODULE WHAT SO EVER!

*ahem*

more seriously...



Fozzie, your mistake here was not writing this line in 10 foot tall block capitals straddled by exotic dancers and launching fireworks from every angle. its not clear enough :P

based on what we're seeing now however.

the vast majority of dominix/ishtar layouts don't really use these modules due to the inherent strengths of the optimal and tracking bonuses. while people certainly do make use of these in more limited quantities, particularly when midslots are not at a premium, it does leave us somewhat in the dark onto how dangerous these modules could be. is there a time frame for when we can hope to see further changes to the sentry drones or in fact drones in general?

overall i somewhat like this shift into more decision oriented game play, the fits have become slightly less cookie cutter on the whole and some attention will be required for scripting for the right situation, one might however argue for more demand on capacitor however as a counter measure against spamming these modules, the downside to the active module choice is nice but without knowledge of intended changes to sentry drones there is only so much I can speculate.

TLDR: I approve of more choice based game play, concerned about how the changes will affect sentries when future sentry changes are unknown, wookiees shouldn't live with 2ft high ewoks.

Half people complaining that drones are getting horribly nerfed to uselessness.
The other half complaining that drones are already overpowered and don't need another boost.

Looks like good balancing to me.
But I doubt it will change much.

I like the changes, but could you then bring the skill requirements in line with the TC, too? Currently the tech 2 TC requires it's corresponding skill at 4 (like most T2 modules), while the tech 2 Omni needs Drone Sharpshooting at 5.

You get it wrong again. There are bout 90,000 characters in SOV holding alliances according to CCP the last time they put out the numbers. The 11% are characters IN null sec during the snap shoot, not all of which are sov alliance members (some are even npc corp alts used for scouting, afk cloaking, whatever).

A lot of those 90k SOV alliance characters are in high sec for various reasons, Like me for instance being in Lanngisi with 2 of therm running missions.

Even many non sov alliance characters are alts of people in sov alliance. This myth about the high majority is easily debunkable for anyone with any moral sense who is interested in the truth. No on would accuse you of that.

No, they reverted and are not goign to change TP base stats.

But YEs, you SHOULD have t2 turrets. What you doing without them? they are very cheap and fast to train now.

Cry moar, it will get done.