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Can we do something about the idiots in highsec already CCP?

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#581 - 2013-11-13 05:31:20 UTC
Tilly Delnero wrote:
To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

anyone that is infinity ziona deserves to be mocked mercilessly
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#582 - 2013-11-13 05:51:56 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Tilly Delnero wrote:
To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

anyone that is infinity ziona thinks highsec is okay as is without any reasonable justification deserves to be mocked mercilessly


Fixed, don't be so restrictive of mockery.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#583 - 2013-11-13 06:22:45 UTC
Tilly Delnero wrote:
oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
Or just do what the rest of us do.. fit some buffer and ignore them .. since their ganking model isnt sustainable against tanky ships.. costs too much

Coming from the person who has, according to their site, already donated a billion to the gankers (therefore making you a ganker by proxy) your vocal claims of opposition to the New Order are laughable at best.

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#584 - 2013-11-13 06:27:35 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tilly Delnero wrote:
oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
Or just do what the rest of us do.. fit some buffer and ignore them .. since their ganking model isnt sustainable against tanky ships.. costs too much

Coming from the person who has, according to their site, already donated a billion to the gankers (therefore making you a ganker by proxy) your vocal claims of opposition to the New Order are laughable at best.

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.


Please argue for removal of timers, it won't hilariously at all, I promise.

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#585 - 2013-11-13 06:46:45 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tilly Delnero wrote:
oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
Or just do what the rest of us do.. fit some buffer and ignore them .. since their ganking model isnt sustainable against tanky ships.. costs too much

Coming from the person who has, according to their site, already donated a billion to the gankers (therefore making you a ganker by proxy) your vocal claims of opposition to the New Order are laughable at best.

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.


You either have timers, hitpoint spamming, or object pong.

Unless you have a suggestion that is not one of those hiding under some vague sugar mask, and is better then don't bother derailing your own thread imo.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#586 - 2013-11-13 08:40:29 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tilly Delnero wrote:
oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
Or just do what the rest of us do.. fit some buffer and ignore them .. since their ganking model isnt sustainable against tanky ships.. costs too much

Coming from the person who has, according to their site, already donated a billion to the gankers (therefore making you a ganker by proxy) your vocal claims of opposition to the New Order are laughable at best.

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.


You either have timers, hitpoint spamming, or object pong.

Unless you have a suggestion that is not one of those hiding under some vague sugar mask, and is better then don't bother derailing your own thread imo.

It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null? No timers is already doable, recruit globally, its a global game. At low pop hours theres low pop so even if you have 30% non peak players they can defend against attacks against the other 30% attacking. Its not like you will have the full force off Goons attacking you in the off hours.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#587 - 2013-11-13 09:26:50 UTC
i'd fully expect someone to shoot my afk spaceship in nullsec. noone has ever complained about having their spaceship get shot at while they were afk in null. why would you think that was not ok?
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#588 - 2013-11-13 09:27:46 UTC
fyi towers and spaceships are things that are not the same. in fact i would even go as far to say they are different things.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#589 - 2013-11-13 09:28:58 UTC
"i don't want to put effort or manpower into doing this task, ccp make it so that someone else has to put in far more effort, isk and manpower so that i can do this thing"
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#590 - 2013-11-13 09:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null? No timers is already doable, recruit globally, its a global game. At low pop hours theres low pop so even if you have 30% non peak players they can defend against attacks against the other 30% attacking. Its not like you will have the full force off Goons attacking you in the off hours.


Ziona, your hangers are a structure. If you are happy with me destroying your hanger in jita 4-4 whilst your deadspace loots are on the market and scooping them, then I'm happy that you can headshot a pos whilst I sleep.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#591 - 2013-11-13 10:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
While you can spin it that way to give an unrealistic view of the past, cost and sec loss were costly enough to keep it under control, one suicide pod was instant -5.
…except, of course, that security costs have gone up, as have ship costs, so the unrealistic view of the past around here is yours.

That said, since costs are in every sense higher now than they were in the past, it does explain why things are under control now and why ganks were far more common back then.

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It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null?
…but it is okay in null, so your question doesn't make any sense. What kind of glue have you been sniffing to ever get the impression that shooting AFK people in null was not okay? It's a national sport out there, for crying out loud.
The timers you're talking about have nothing to do with null or with being AFK.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#592 - 2013-11-13 10:46:08 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.


this is a stealth "buff autopilot" thread isn't it..

I really think the OP is trolling, he can't be that dumb to see whats wrong here.


Unfamiliar with Infinity Ziona, I see.

Yeah, he can be that dumb. We get a new one of these threads every time something comes along and upsets his applecart. Last time it was reinforcement timers, before that it was not being able to dock in someone else's sov.

Hehe, when I first read the opening post I thought:"Hm, he's probably trolling, no veteran EVE player would spew this kind of nonsense but what the hell, let's post!", and now you're telling me he was being serious all this time? Shocked
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#593 - 2013-11-13 10:56:30 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.


this is a stealth "buff autopilot" thread isn't it..

I really think the OP is trolling, he can't be that dumb to see whats wrong here.


Unfamiliar with Infinity Ziona, I see.

Yeah, he can be that dumb. We get a new one of these threads every time something comes along and upsets his applecart. Last time it was reinforcement timers, before that it was not being able to dock in someone else's sov.

Hehe, when I first read the opening post I thought:"Hm, he's probably trolling, no veteran EVE player would spew this kind of nonsense but what the hell, let's post!", and now you're telling me he was being serious all this time? Shocked


Yep. No kidding, check his post history. Either he's the most convincing and prolific troll of all time, or he actually believes all this ****.

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#594 - 2013-11-13 11:05:04 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Binchiette Ambrye wrote:
...
Good job on totally not understanding the point i was making and turning it into something completly different.....


That's all you're gonna get.
Also the claim that IZ was allowed docking rights by Tribe is a lie. Unless it was another null alliance you 'solo warred', if that's what lurking afk cloaked in a lolfit t3 with a falcon alt is called. Most guys do that with a bomber or recon, get kills and dock down the road at an npc station. Can't remember the one 5 jumps from PB but i still have stuff there from my own time sneaking around there.
At that time everyone in EvE was cruising over to PB to punch out Tribal Bads, IZ was probably the last person to make it there. Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills, but probably just get twisted into some fitting argument or definition of efficiency or some other slimy obfuscation.

TL:DR; OP is a joke and a liar. Not a troll


Simple check of my contracts will clearly show I was granted docking rights.


OK. Your last two contracts were in 2013, both in Jita. One for a Rattlesnake BPC and one for a Dread Guristas Tower BPC.
Before that we have a contract in 2010 November 26, also in Jita, from there contracts go back to 2008, mostly in Jita or Rens, no mention of any null systems. Did you think i wouldn't check or is there some filter i didn't apply?

Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills...and i mean chat logs or mails or even a name of someone i can ask about this. For the life of me, i can't figure out why anyone would allow a neut to dock in their space when it's about 8 jumps to H-8 npc station. That's if you're referring to docking rights in PB.

So yeah, gonna need some details here.


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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
#595 - 2013-11-13 12:31:02 UTC
I still think multi-boxing should be put on a leash.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#596 - 2013-11-13 12:43:47 UTC
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:
I still think multi-boxing should be put on a leash.

You mean as in having several accounts or as in using software to run 10+ chars simultaneously? I'd agree with the latter. If you're talking about having alts, forget it. EVE is an alt game in every fibre of it's existence.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
#597 - 2013-11-13 12:54:06 UTC
The latter.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#598 - 2013-11-13 12:56:39 UTC
I don't like alts much. But it's impossible to remove them from the game. So I use alts myself vOv
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#599 - 2013-11-13 13:14:16 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null? No timers is already doable, recruit globally, its a global game. At low pop hours theres low pop so even if you have 30% non peak players they can defend against attacks against the other 30% attacking. Its not like you will have the full force off Goons attacking you in the off hours.


Ziona, your hangers are a structure. If you are happy with me destroying your hanger in jita 4-4 whilst your deadspace loots are on the market and scooping them, then I'm happy that you can headshot a pos whilst I sleep.


And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is. He would constantly harp about how it was somehow wrong for people to be carebearing in deep "safe" null sec (which is only "safe" because of human effort) while not complaining one slight bit about the people doing PVE in the place where most PVE is done AND while under the wholly automated protection of CONCORD.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#600 - 2013-11-13 13:16:54 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:

And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is. He would constantly harp about how it was somehow wrong for people to be carebearing in deep "safe" null sec (which is only "safe" because of human effort) while not complaining one slight bit about the people doing PVE in the place where most PVE is done AND while under the wholly automated protection of CONCORD.


Jenn aSide wrote:

And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is.



Jenn aSide wrote:
Ziona's thinking


Think I found your problem there bro...

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