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Can we do something about the idiots in highsec already CCP?

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-05 10:24:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2 - 2013-11-05 10:29:00 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.


Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-11-05 10:29:19 UTC
High sec being safe is an urban legend.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-11-05 10:29:22 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.


HOW DARE YOU!!

CS 1.6 !!!!!!
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#5 - 2013-11-05 10:31:03 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.



Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-11-05 10:34:51 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.


Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com

Lmao, I haven't mined since I mined for my first Tempest in 2003... one week of non-stop mining was enough to cure me for life.

Nah its freaking rediculous. WTF should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Feck that. But I have to.

I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7 - 2013-11-05 10:36:46 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.


Buy a Mining Permit. You can find out how on www.minerbumping.com

Lmao, I haven't mined since I mined for my first Tempest in 2003... one week of non-stop mining was enough to cure me for life.

Nah its freaking rediculous. WTF should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Feck that. But I have to.

I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.


No bot aspirant is safe, not even you. Honor the Code, or agents will find you.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-11-05 10:37:27 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.



Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game.

Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much.

I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"...

Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#9 - 2013-11-05 10:39:21 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.



Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game.

Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much.

I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"...

Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".


Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here:

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-11-05 10:45:16 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.



Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game.

Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much.

I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"...

Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".


Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here:

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#11 - 2013-11-05 10:46:04 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.

You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.

No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.

At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.



Your first wrong impression is to think Hi-Sec is supposedly safe. Your second is your assumption that this isn't the game CCP designed. It's exactly what they designed, and people are using as it is designed. Your final wrong assumption is you think the game is broke in this aspect of the game.

Your wrong impression is you think you know what you're talking about. Like I said I've been here since 2003. I have seen the buffs and nerfs that CCP used to make to adjust for dps creep and other factors when ganking got too much.

I also was around at the time of the Zombie incident in Yulai and read the post made by the lead dev at the time, the original lead dev, who stated "high sec is supposed to be relatively safe"...

Not "high sec is counterstrike in space".


Read the words above again. You violated the Code, and you were punished. You can find the Code here:

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.



Sounds like someone is mad.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-11-05 10:48:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
hmm nvm, I get what you mean, or not.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#13 - 2013-11-05 10:57:26 UTC
There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.

In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-11-05 11:05:05 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.

In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities.

I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Levome Thorphan
Evil Genius Organisation
#15 - 2013-11-05 11:06:18 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.


There is no "safe space" in EVE... if you want to AFK safely, go sit in a station. And you haven't even been ganked (so you never even lost anything?) so what are you complaining about lol...

On the other hand I do agree that a bigger risk for the aggressor would be nice.
Levome Thorphan
Evil Genius Organisation
#16 - 2013-11-05 11:09:12 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.

In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities.

I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish.


Turning into? These are not new mechanics you are mentioning...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-11-05 11:12:56 UTC
Levome Thorphan wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.

Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.


There is no "safe space" in EVE... if you want to AFK safely, go sit in a station. And you haven't even been ganked (so you never even lost anything?) so what are you complaining about lol...

On the other hand I do agree that a bigger risk for the aggressor would be nice.

As I mentioned already, I'm not asking for safe space, but as I also mentioned, as per the original intention of highsec, its was supposed to be relatively safe.

I'm not against suicide ganking, I was one of the first people to gank barges when they first came out, and I suicided someone the other day in Jita, however the ease of suiciding along with the no consequences of the mechanic are not what EvE is supposed to be about.

EvE is supposed to be HARSH, not just harsh on carebears, but harsh on everyone. We have a subset of players, who are by and large obvious carebears, hiding behind alts with no risk to themselves and killing people without any risk, any effort or any skill.

That's not EVE imo.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
#18 - 2013-11-05 11:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Well before there was can flipping, which people mostly did in the hope they would dock up and come back out in a combat ship or their defender from their corp would come out and have a nice bit of pvp, or maybe a risk for the corp to come blob you, or the chance to negotiate a ransom. Miners complained to get bigger ore holds and safer mechanics. Now instead of flipping there is nothing to do except straight up gank in under 30 seconds, which probably ends up in more dead barges than before, and no emergent gameplay (except james315) just gank gank gank
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-11-05 11:17:05 UTC
Sensors report vast densities of rear pain in this sector!

Also hisec is not supposed to be safe. Safety has a price: be at the keyboard or fly a brick and make it look unappealing.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#20 - 2013-11-05 11:17:28 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:


I'm not interested in that rubbish. EvE Online is supposed to be a complex game, kills should earned. If you want to roleplay some idiot roleplay then fine, but you should still EARN your kills. Low skill easy kills please **** off and go to play a FPS already.



Actually Ziona, let me lay some logic on you...

This is a sandbox game that is usually regarded as being "cold and harsh."

Now...

Which is more harsh?

A low skill, easy kill...

Or a fight fought heroically...

Hmmmm?

Or let me put it in plainly...

There is no bushido in space. Big smileTwistedRoll

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
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