EVE General Discussion

That is not what I am talking about - but if you'd like to continue this discussion my inbox is open to you. I'd like to hear what Guard has to say about several very pertinent and unanswered questions in this thread without mucking it up with side-discussions where I am repeatedly (deliberately?)misunderstood.

I say give out in game prizes.
they are kewl and are mainly just a epeen at any rate.

Somer Blink does make profit.. but they do it in a manner that is fun for the partisipants.
I know I did enjoy a curier race that they hosted during their 1Q party.. there was no cost involed, you didnt actually needed to be registered on Somer Blink to participate, and everyone that finished got 25mil.. plus prizes for the winners..

People also keep throwing around this TRILLIONS!!! in prizes thing around when talking about the IWS' so they were valued at between 10-20bil a peice.. at 30 scorps that makes them valued as a group at around 600bil.. that is well short of the trillion mark.

I also wonder just how much Somer Blink actually does make per month..
I am guessing alot but I'm also thinking probally a fair deal less then most people are claiming.. Sure that make about 20% of each blink but when you fator in the Promo's and the rate that they pay their staff (which sits at about 30members) doing some quick rough math with the 20% figure.. you have their earnings sitting at about just over 24tril isk,

this figure in itself is inflated as it counts the value of promotinal prizes handed out aswell but keeping with that figure.. and the fact it has been running for 3 years.. thats 8Tril a year earnings before negating the cost of paying employees (say there is one person on 20hrs/day which makes it 657bil/yr plus adding in freight employee we will round to 1T) and promotional items (3.65T at roughly 10bil worth of promo giveaways a day)..

So at the end of that you have about 3.5T profit per year..

And while that is a larger number then most wallets it really isnt that big

CCP Guard wrote:
It had to do with timing, our impression of their overall track record and capability, their niche, and habit of sponsoring events...to name a few.


1. Timing really the summer summit was in AUG. you chose not to include the CSM in any of this WHY?????????????????????? Please give me a real answer for this. here is the answer Trebor gave me on the phone when this broke back in Sept. " This was the first we heard of this and we are pissed"

2. The one thing the CSM is charge with after the T20 crap and yet it never hit the agenda.

3. What amazes me is you guys have yet to post a single solution. All I keep hearing is we will work on that for the future.

4. Hell I had a friend who got hired by CCP and when he did he told me he could not be apart of DNS any longer. He then joined another group with some other memebers of DNS and I warned him this was a dangerous road to travel. I warned his friends who he was trying to remain with and play eve with this was a dangerous road to travel. This plus a number of other issues ended my friendship with him. He is still working at CCP and to this day doesn't speak with me. I am thankful for this cause of the reasons your somer blink issue of favortisum brings up.

5. I thank the eve gods everyday after I watched CCP presents from this year that Hilmar gets it. He mined trit during his childs first birth to replace a thorax of his corp mates he got blown up. If any one deserved to spawn a ship and benefit from their hard work for eve it was him but he didnt. this example should set the stage to how special this game is and no third party, corp or GOD himself should get any inside the sand box favors ever. If I have to earn it in game then so should those who I have to fight and that includes the fing ceo of CCP.

They don't allow alarm clock responses at my WORK.

INB4 accusation of not being hardcore enough because you won't miss workdays for pixel spaceship.

+1

No, that was not the express purpose for why the IWS was created. As was stated in the first post, the IWS was created to be sold on the NeX store. I've seen several statements from CCP saying that community giveaways was the reason for the ship to exist all along. Is almost as if CCP is hoping that lie being told enough will make it become true.

When was the purpose of the IWS changed? If CCP had announced the change in purpose for the IWS ship ahead of being released in larger quantities, the price for the ship would never have been as high as it was nor do I think the outrage would have been as big. People were paying 30b from the start under the false assumption few additional ships would be added . If people knew CCP was planning on releasing 100's of the ship, the price would never have gotten over 10b.

In my opinion any fansite giveaway program has to include at a minimum:

1) Published guidelines used for selecting recipients, and
2) Most importantly, a published list of all in-game items given away.

Giving away plexes and swag is less problematic for me, if only because it's basically similar to the commissions for GTCs.

And you can't really use "we've been doing this for ages and no one's complained about it so far" as an excuse, since these giveaways haven't been very widely publicized. Other than, of course, events at cons and the Alliance Tournament.

PS: When did we start looking to themittani.com as a source of credible space journalism? Jesus H Christ.

And in doing so, they raise visibility of their site, bringing in more customers and making themselves more ISK.

Sponsorship is not altruism; it is advertising.