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Well it is a very good leason for next year.

Vote who you want elected, not who you are told too.

Ok maybe it is because I just woke up but

What the hell does "Finding this number for CSM7 is a little more difficult. 14,813 votes were cast for candidates that did not make the top 14. These are "under-votes" and had no effect on the final council. The more difficult area is determining “over-votes” (votes cast for a victorious candidate that did not affect their standing and could have been used to elect a different candidate). If you consider being in the top 14 to be “unaffected standing” then there were 26,348 over-votes cast in the CSM7 elections. If you feel that being one of the top 7 delegates is "unaffected standing" (as many do) then there were 12,495 votes cast for those in the top 7 that did not affect the election outcome. This means that of the 59,109 ballots cast in the election, 31,801 ballots affected the outcome of the top 7 and 17,948 ballots affected the outcome of the top 14; That comes out to be 53% and 30.3% enfranchised votes respectively."
mean:

For example how does disenfranchised voters compare between the 14 members of CSM7 and the 14 on CSM8?
Not worrying about the CSM 7 top 7 as it is kind of irrelevant, considering 12 of the 14 CSM8 candidates can be considered below the top 7, in comparison.

That's probably the most pessimistic way you could look at who had an enfranchised vote in the CSM7 and CSM8 election, but I will work with it I guess.

So if you want to say that the old Top 7 is equivalent to the new STV-2 vote then let's look at the math. In CSM7 the quota to make it into the top 7 was 2,845 votes for Seleene. That mean that there were 7 * 2845 = 19,915 enfranchised votes split amongst those 7 candidates that were not "over-votes".

Now let's look at the STV-2 election in CSM8. Mynnna was elected with 10,348 enfranchised votes and Ripard Teg was elected with 10,301 enfranchised votes. Together that is 20,649 enfranchised votes to elect the STV-2 winners.

So in conclusion, in the CSM8 elections there were still more enfranchised votes to elect 2 people than would have been required to elect the entire top 7 in CSM8. Additionally, while we are now using an STV system and ballots are far more likely to have any one candidate on them, both of the STV-2 winners names appeared on more ballots than The Mittani did during his victory in CSM7.

How can you say you are underrepresented when 53% >> 20% of peeps living in NULL ( and not all are in blocs to boot) ? You have over double your populations representation.

Your claims regarding how many players hail from which areas of space is not only wrong (as it is dependent on characters rather than people) but irrelevant, as STV is not intended to represent the population as a whole, but the voting population.



And as to you, my dear Frying Doom, I very explicitly highlighted the null blocs, not the wormhole bloc.

Well, there were two from HBC and two from CFC, one from N3 and one from wormholes. Then you've got Trebor, Ripard, Malcanis, Mangala, and Mike from the ECCE, as well as Ali, Korvin and James respectively representing both Provi Bloc/Russians/wormholes and ECCE.


Sacrebleu! You were right all along! STV handed the election to the blocs!

Null players are a majority.

Unfortunately the profanity blocker prevents people from saying what you are a majority of

Yes but apparently only one of the two WH people elected were part of the bloc

but 3 would have been very nice.

Well, TEST proved how voting "strategically" can royally screw you over in STV. Just vote in order of your preference, your own first, your allies thereafter... works.