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And I'll echo the sentiment expressed in these pages about POS refineries needing some love.

My type of LOVE for POS refineries would be converting all refineries (NPC station, outposts, and POS alike) into activity lines with throughput versus efficiency trade offs. Thus you can have a 30% efficient refinery that has a dozen lines each capable of processing a million cubic metres per hour (which you would find in, say, mining corporation refinery stations) or a 60% efficient refinery with a half-dozen lines capable of processing a hundred thousand cubic metres per hour which you would find in, say, Logistics Support stations. I'd remove refineries from NPC stations that are purely administrative. Then a POS manager could choose between an intensive mining refinery that can actually process more ore per hour than a single miner in a boosted Hulk can produce, which still takes vast CPU and PG resources, or a less intensive refinery that can't keep up with a single miner, but allows other stuff to be online at the same time (such as, say, a CHA).

But for the moment I'm going to have a private moment with the tail end of Andie's presentation about building and destroying stargates. I think I am in love.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but don't you get one advanced, two intermediate, and three basic?
So 50 + 3*20 + 2*40 + 60 = 250?

T2 Salvage Alchemy please.

100 T1 salvage + 100 PI or other thing = some number of T2 salvage

or with changes to scan sites it T2 salvage going to become more common?

Yes but will a monument upgrade platform still cost as nearly as much as an outpost?

Sanctum isk/hr is fine, frigs have a serious unexpected effect on isk hour, it's why forsaken hubs are by far the most popular anomalies (most people use battleships, and even BS with webs and tracking bonuses and light drones can have a hard time)

Decreasing the number of frigs and adding more battlecrusiers to sanctums is nice, but any frigs in forskaen hubs will just kill Teir3 anom farming (nagas already have only just enough slots for tank, how do you add a web to that?).

The devblog doesn't actually say frigs it says pirates, so if it's not frigs being added to forsaken hubs, no harm no foul. But if it is frigs , that's a huge nerf to grunt player income which could have bad effects on null sec pvp. It's goingt o be iteresting to see what happens to null pvp with these changes in general.

So hubs will add some elite frigates and cruisers, sanctums will take some out and switch them for battlecruisers.
IMO that's a good change.

They also didn't say they were going to make new npc non-frig (and non-sleeper/incursion) ships that scram.

I'm really really hoping they don't take the lazy way and add frigs to forsaken hubs, forsaken hubs have been unique in having n frigs since they added them.

LOL..just love reading the null bears "wah, wah...my null sec income might be affected". High sec just took another body slam, and you clowns laugh when high sec gets crushed. Now we have one ship class potentially affected by an NPC change, and people lose their minds.

Hypocrites all of you.

Exscuse my ignorance of the POS sytems, but why does the Amarr have quite a bit more manufacturing capabilities than the other races?

You must not rat for your isk.

Forsaken hubs are the only reasons right now to not completely abbandon null sec for empire incursions and high sec 4/10 farming. The things you have to do to kill ANY frigs in a battleship in an anom means you can do other things , and you can do them at all in an Attack BC except for the Talos which sucks outside of Serp/Angel space.

This is a bad idea man, PVE is my main thing and I've been an Anom and exploration guy for years. The adaptations people are going to have to make (using long range ships like the Oracle as it is in Blood Raider space or adding webs that will be useless against anything BUT frigs etc etc) is totally going to cut isk per hour for grunt players beyond any amount of tweaking ccp is going to do to sanctums.