EVE General Discussion

Wow, anyone wondering if the game is worth playing will leave if they come to the forums looking for answers. Time to step out of the basements and get some air.

It's not an easy game getting used to, and the learning curve is somewhat harsh. As someone said earlier; the key is meeting the right people, and there's always something to as long as you don't expect to do it alone.

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Find a corp !
Factional !
Wardeck !
Pirating or killing Pirates !
Go learn 0.0 at Providence
Missionning for Pirate npc corp low sec & 0.0 (That's great challenge for you)

Could you (the OP) just assume I flamed you, insulted your intelligence and generally trolled you? It's really not worth it, you've had enough suggestions but are too arrogant to do anything about it.



P.s. I'm just chiming in to encourage you to Un-sub

So, you didn't do 5 seconds of research into the game before D/Ling I see and were thus dissapointed that the game didn't give you something it's never ever offered.... That makes you the typical new player (and gamer in general).

In EVE you are the CAPTAIN of the ship, not it's pilot.

Rather than list all of the things you can be doing, I'll simply tell you what I would do in your current postion.

Stop waiting for skills to train. Skill training is a back ground activity and in very few cases will lack of skills keep you from doing something.

If you want to learn combat in EvE, join Red vs Blue. You'll be kept plenty busy, everyone is welcome, and you'll start to learn all the things about combat in EvE that you have no clue about at the moment. You'll have some FC's that keep things basic, you'll have some that show you how to do more than simply approach or orbit. You'll have ample opportunity to try 1 vs 1 combat to learn the advantages of flying your ship manually. And you will die, a lot, which is something you need to learn to accept in EvE.

You'll go through a lot of ships, but they do have a limited ship replacement program in place.

After you've been in for a while, you'll realize you could have been flying level 2 missions in your frig or destroyer all along... you just didn't know how to pilot your ship correctly. The have a group known as noob fleet that will ease you past that awkward "how hard could it be stage" and show you what you are doing wrong. Once you feel confident you can step up and try your hand at being FC of a combat group, which is highly encouraged for newer players.


All this being said, this is only one option out of the literally limitless things you can do at this point in your training. The only thing limiting your options... is you.

I'm a new character (about a month). I have 1.5 million SP (virtually none compared to the 15million+ SP pilots) and I have to say, I fudging love EVE.

I've dabbled in PvE, a little PvP (via the duelling option, my god I was shocking but I received some good tips off the people I duelled), a little bit of Industry (particularly mining, boring to me in long hauls to do every day but easy money when I need ISK). And dabbled in other stuff too.
I'm also loving the fact that you can skill properly in real time rather than a skill tree like WoW or other popular MMO's.

Long story short, I really enjoy what little I know of the EVE universe so far.

How is it a char that's a week old can know everything about EVE, when myself only knows a few things and by your analogy I should have done everything the game has to offer...?

You know despite the growling of the usual forum peeps about the OP and the OP's opinion of the game regarding the new player experience, she is partially right. Space combat in EVE isn't really all that exciting. WoW's combat is more engaging than EVE's. LOL! Anyone that plays EVE knows and understands this - EVE's combat is just what it is - and we've come to accept it because we've grown accustomed to its pace. For a new player though - think about it from their perspective. It is slow and it is not exciting in the least. It is what it is. Trying to make it seem like it is something more than what it is - makes you look silly.

Plus, new players often find the slow grind of earning skill points to much to deal with, especially when they first get into the game. This is nothing new, we've all seen hundreds of post regarding this topic. In fact CCP has listened and tried to ease the initial grind by removing players need to skill up attributes - remember? To say she is unwarranted in her gripe with the way skills are earned in this game is silly because it has always been an ongoing issue in the game with new players, and is one of the main reasons why so many people fail to stick with the game. EVE is a trial of patience. It takes a special person to deal with the slow slog of earning skill points - not everyone can do it. Do not beret her/him because she is one of the "majority" of gamers that cannot cope with the way skill points are earned in this game, and she/he has every right to have an opinion on it and to voice that opinion. And despite what the growling peeps in this thread say, it is one of the downfalls for retaining people in this game.

The need to have X number of skill points to be a part of a corp is deeply rooted in the fact that the players of EVE are a paranoid bunch and for good reason. The players themselves have created a atmosphere of distrust among themselves due to the fact that nobody can trust anyone. 99.9% of the people that play EVE maybe decent folk in the real world, but in this game they become back stabbing, low life cheating scum, from Rat **** Alley. They will, and do take advantage of anyone and everyone if it means getting ISK. The players made the game the way it is and it is hard for a new player to understand that the reason why they are not likely to be allowed to join a decent corp is because the players of this game are - paranoid! 1st rule of EVE - can anyone tell me what it is? Sure you can - "Don't trust anyone!" It is there for a reason. So OP, don't feel bad that you can't join a large decent Corp, it's just the nature of the game and the people that play it. A player with less than 5mil SP is not likely to get into a decent size good corp because you are a potential threat - you could be a spy, you could be a player looking to take revenge, you could be a scammer, you could be a thief, or an AWOX'er. There needs to be some information in the new player experience to make new players aware of this - but alas there is not. So to you players coming down on the OP for her opinion on this - cut her some slack, she is new, and doesn't understand that we're all a bunch of paranoid gamers that play a game that instills insecurity and distrust - especially distrust to those we do not know.

Anyway OP, EVE is a game of patience and tedium(that rewards you for your patience and frustrations in subtle ways), if you think it is anything like the trailers where ships are diving in and out of asteroid fields and flying in between the super structures of huge space stations with exciting combat(like you might find in an FPS style space sim), look elsewhere - EVE is not that game.

People with weak sphincters shouldn't be playing EVE.

While definitely EVE, this also conjures images of a chili and Pabst day-after. I salute you, sir.