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Started playing Eve for the first time last week

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Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-30 21:02:33 UTC
I have been trying out Eve the last week or so. I actually ended up buying 2 accounts after seeing how long it takes to train any skills, becuase I wanted to get into trading, but also Pvp, and I can see it would take too damn long to train in both. (at least for me, I am a bit impatient).

Anyway after playing about a week, i am losing interest fast. I am just really bored with the combat mechanics. I mean for god's sake why don't they let you actually pilot your craft?

To be honest while playing it, all I could think was "wow x3 looked so much better, and I really miss being able to pilot my craft, and have real comat where skills actually matter, not just , here click this target, and now wait for my gun to kill it" lol.

Anyway I don't feel like I wasted any money, becuase at least i got to see the game, and I will be honest, the huge vast universe and the amount of different directions you can go is a huge turnon, however, the fact that it takes so freaking long to train your skills enough to try out even 1/10th of the content is a huge turnoff. It wouldnt be so bad if you could just go out and have fun doing combat and whatnot, but really you can't have fun with that, so where is the fun? Sit around and wait for my skills to go up?

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if my corporations were willing to accept newer players, but almost all say , ok must have xxxxx number of SP, and whatnot to join.

I also think its funny when you hear people talking about combat and killing ships as if it took some sort of skills. The only skill it takes is having a good layout on your ship, and once you actually get into combat its more like a chessgame than a space combat sim.

Meh, I don't know unless I find something more interesting in the next few days I probably won't be logging in again.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-03-30 21:09:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
*facepalm*

You're new to the game but believe you already know enough about everything,
of what you have chosen to do, to criticize it.
That really makes sense to you ?

Also ... you *can* pilot your ship.
Ever tried clicking into space ?
I play mostly that way...

Well ... thanks for joining ... have a nice life. o/
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#3 - 2013-03-30 21:10:15 UTC
Thank god. please go back to whatever you like. Eve will get bit better.

Seriously though, you played eve for a week and u decided that the whole game is boring? You 'bought' 2 accs because you were impatient? Impatient for what? training for a week?

I can bet all my chars that you don't know anything abt eve and u haven't seen even a bit of it. I can even say you haven't completed the tutorials too. You undocked, looked around, shot some npc's and decided eve is not for you. Excellent decision, dont let the door hit you on your way out.
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-30 21:11:44 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
*facepalm*

You're new to the game but believe you already know enough about everything,
of what you have chosen to do, to criticize it.
That really makes sense to you ?

Also ... you *can* pilot your ship.
Ever tried clicking into space ?
I play mostly that way...

Well ... thanks for joining ... have a nice life. o/


Lol I knew I would get flamed, and go ahead flame me, I am simply giving my perspective, because I want the devs to know, if you want people to join the game, and stay in the game, you need to add a bit more content to the begining, e.g. things that you can actually do without need 10 million skill points.
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-30 21:14:48 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
Thank god. please go back to whatever you like. Eve will get bit better.

Seriously though, you played eve for a week and u decided that the whole game is boring? You 'bought' 2 accs because you were impatient? Impatient for what? training for a week?

I can bet all my chars that you don't know anything abt eve and u haven't seen even a bit of it. I can even say you haven't completed the tutorials too. You undocked, looked around, shot some npc's and decided eve is not for you. Excellent decision, dont let the door hit you on your way out.


Not true, I did ALL the tutorials, and many more missions besides that.
My point is, what am I supposed to do now?

I can't do higher level missions, because I don't have the skills for cruisers and bigger ships, and it will be days perhaps weeks before I do.

I can't go off exploring, because of the same issue, I run into rats which I stand no chance against in a destroyer.

I reallize the Devs only want me to sit around until my skills go up, becuase that is how they get me to keep paying for my accounts. However, the fact that I am paying, and really can't do much at all for the moment is pretty rediculous.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2013-03-30 21:14:51 UTC
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.




There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Leetha Layne
#7 - 2013-03-30 21:15:10 UTC
And I care because...?
Dave Stark
#8 - 2013-03-30 21:15:57 UTC
please, tell me more.
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-30 21:16:51 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.






Honestly i thought about it, but the price is a little too high for anything worth buying.
celebro
Advanced Resource Acquisition and Exploration
Cyno.Up
#10 - 2013-03-30 21:17:28 UTC
You could started out by actually asking questions, with what exactly you want to do with low skill characters. There are loads of stuff to do. It's just not going to happen solo, need to join a good corp every pilot can fly a ship with guns and tackle.

Btw in Eve you command your ship not fly it.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#11 - 2013-03-30 21:17:42 UTC
Leia Kommana wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
*facepalm*

You're new to the game but believe you already know enough about everything,
of what you have chosen to do, to criticize it.
That really makes sense to you ?

Also ... you *can* pilot your ship.
Ever tried clicking into space ?
I play mostly that way...

Well ... thanks for joining ... have a nice life. o/


Lol I knew I would get flamed, and go ahead flame me, I am simply giving my perspective, because I want the devs to know, if you want people to join the game, and stay in the game, you need to add a bit more content to the begining, e.g. things that you can actually do without need 10 million skill points.


There are ways. there are many things that u can do from day 1. I am not going to spell it out for you if you cant be arsed to find one.

You are one example of a group that thinks using RL money will get u ahead and u can jump into the main part. but actually in eve, the main part is what it takes to get somewhere. there is no end game.

I am not gonna waste time on this stupidity. please, leave now.

oh, and can i have your stuff?
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-03-30 21:18:18 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.







Lol I wish it was challenging, if it was challenging it would be exacltly what I am looking for. However, it is the opposite of challenging. It is the epitomy of boredom. What is challenging about waiting forever for my skills to go up ?
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-03-30 21:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Leia Kommana
Kaanchana wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
*facepalm*

You're new to the game but believe you already know enough about everything,
of what you have chosen to do, to criticize it.
That really makes sense to you ?

Also ... you *can* pilot your ship.
Ever tried clicking into space ?
I play mostly that way...

Well ... thanks for joining ... have a nice life. o/


Lol I knew I would get flamed, and go ahead flame me, I am simply giving my perspective, because I want the devs to know, if you want people to join the game, and stay in the game, you need to add a bit more content to the begining, e.g. things that you can actually do without need 10 million skill points.


There are ways. there are many things that u can do from day 1. I am not going to spell it out for you if you cant be arsed to find one.

You are one example of a group that thinks using RL money will get u ahead and u can jump into the main part. but actually in eve, the main part is what it takes to get somewhere. there is no end game.

I am not gonna waste time on this stupidity. please, leave now.

oh, and can i have your stuff?


Ohh my bad, I was under the impression that this was a general discussion forum, and I could post what I wanted. It should have said, this is general discussion "only if you praise the game".
celebro
Advanced Resource Acquisition and Exploration
Cyno.Up
#14 - 2013-03-30 21:21:28 UTC
Leia Kommana wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.







Lol I wish it was challenging, if it was challenging it would be exacltly what I am looking for. However, it is the opposite of challenging. It is the epitomy of boredom. What is challenging about waiting forever for my skills to go up ?


The idea behind it is play the game whilst you leave it skill up, no skill grinding.
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-03-30 21:24:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Leia Kommana
celebro wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.







Lol I wish it was challenging, if it was challenging it would be exacltly what I am looking for. However, it is the opposite of challenging. It is the epitomy of boredom. What is challenging about waiting forever for my skills to go up ?


The idea behind it is play the game whilst you leave it skill up, no skill grinding.


Again what do I do?
I can't do any higher missions, due to the reasons that I have given. I can't go exploring for the same reasons I gave. So I guess I am just supposed to wait 4 or 5 days till I can get better stuff to do that?

Doesn't that bother anyone here?

Really the only thing I can do at this point is go run a bunch of level 1 missions, which I have already done at least 30 times, for a pittance, and getting the same missions repeating over and over again.

I know there is trading, there is mining, there are a lot of things, as others have mentioned, and I am sure I could enjoy a lot of those things in another month or so after I have the skills to do them. But in the meantime theres basically nothing to do.

I am saying this to the Devs, either add more content for those starting out the game, or make skills go up faster, I know you would never do that becuase you want people to play for years, but it's a big hurdle for people like me that joined the game and want to be able to enjoy it from the beginning.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#16 - 2013-03-30 21:33:07 UTC
Leia Kommana wrote:
celebro wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.







Lol I wish it was challenging, if it was challenging it would be exacltly what I am looking for. However, it is the opposite of challenging. It is the epitomy of boredom. What is challenging about waiting forever for my skills to go up ?


The idea behind it is play the game whilst you leave it skill up, no skill grinding.


Again what do I do?
I can't do any higher missions, due to the reasons that I have given. I can't go exploring for the same reasons I gave. So I guess I am just supposed to wait 4 or 5 days till I can get better stuff to do that?

Doesn't that bother anyone here?

Really the only thing I can do at this point is go run a bunch of level 1 missions, which I have already done at least 30 times, for a pittance, and getting the same missions repeating over and over again.

I know there is trading, there is mining, there are a lot of things, as others have mentioned, and I am sure I could enjoy a lot of those things in another month or so after I have the skills to do them. But in the meantime theres basically nothing to do.

I am saying this to the Devs, either add more content for those starting out the game, or make skills go up faster, I know you would never do that becuase you want people to play for years, but it's a big hurdle for people like me that joined the game and want to be able to enjoy it from the beginning.


1. everyone went from lvl1 to 4. no u cant jump to lvl4 directly even if you had skilled up for 2 years.

2. Trading needs a day of skilling to get started. U need more to be successful yes, but u have to start to get there.

3. Mining takes 2 hrs to get started.

4. pvp takes about a week, train a frig lvl4, gunnery, get into RvB.

Wtf are u whining about? you want to do lvl4 and fly supers as soon as u get into game? No, we are all sorry that your whiny ass cant do that but there are players working for it for far longer than u do. If u want lvl4, work from lvl1.

Not willing to see the path doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-03-30 21:34:46 UTC
Leia Kommana wrote:
Kaanchana wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
*facepalm*
stuffo/


stuff



oh, and can i have your stuff?


stuff".


Op wouldnt have anything of value after playing a week ^^ Obvious troll is obvious, ib4L
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-03-30 21:35:29 UTC
Wow and i thought i'll be the only one acting like that. *LOL*
Leia Kommana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-03-30 21:36:32 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
celebro wrote:
Leia Kommana wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
OP should have just bought a character in the Bazaar if building-up a new character is too challenging.







Lol I wish it was challenging, if it was challenging it would be exacltly what I am looking for. However, it is the opposite of challenging. It is the epitomy of boredom. What is challenging about waiting forever for my skills to go up ?


The idea behind it is play the game whilst you leave it skill up, no skill grinding.


Again what do I do?
I can't do any higher missions, due to the reasons that I have given. I can't go exploring for the same reasons I gave. So I guess I am just supposed to wait 4 or 5 days till I can get better stuff to do that?

Doesn't that bother anyone here?

Really the only thing I can do at this point is go run a bunch of level 1 missions, which I have already done at least 30 times, for a pittance, and getting the same missions repeating over and over again.

I know there is trading, there is mining, there are a lot of things, as others have mentioned, and I am sure I could enjoy a lot of those things in another month or so after I have the skills to do them. But in the meantime theres basically nothing to do.

I am saying this to the Devs, either add more content for those starting out the game, or make skills go up faster, I know you would never do that becuase you want people to play for years, but it's a big hurdle for people like me that joined the game and want to be able to enjoy it from the beginning.


1. everyone went from lvl1 to 4. no u cant jump to lvl4 directly even if you had skilled up for 2 years.

2. Trading needs a day of skilling to get started. U need more to be successful yes, but u have to start to get there.

3. Mining takes 2 hrs to get started.

4. pvp takes about a week, train a frig lvl4, gunnery, get into RvB.

Wtf are u whining about? you want to do lvl4 and fly supers as soon as u get into game? No, we are all sorry that your whiny ass cant do that but there are players working for it for far longer than u do. If u want lvl4, work from lvl1.

Not willing to see the path doesnt mean it doesnt exist.


The thing is that you cant do all of them, as you know it takes a long time to train up the skills.

Pvp how? I applied to different corps, all want someone with 5 million SP at a minimum. So I am to head into lowsec by myself in my level 1 frigate with guns, and how do you think thats gonna turn out?

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-03-30 21:36:34 UTC
Leia Kommana wrote:
Not true, I did ALL the tutorials, and many more missions besides that.
My point is, what am I supposed to do now?

I can't do higher level missions, because I don't have the skills for cruisers and bigger ships, and it will be days perhaps weeks before I do.


Valid point.

For the vets who can do whatever they want, they'll be sure to come here to defend the status quo. But they're not helping the game grow, they're dinosaurs with the heads in the sand defending their turf. Happens in too many games, and then they wonder why the game becomes more of a bot haven.

CCP could improve the game by offering more for newer players who haven't experienced the skill grind (and it's a different type of grind, but has the same feel...pure timesink to pay to play). Because it takes a good month to have the skills to even do level 3 missions in a battlecruiser. A player will grow out of level 1/2 within a month, even casually playing. Then they hit the wall of trying to skill up to use a battlecruiser with enough skills to do early level 4s. Then face the real skill grind to fly a battleship.

So between cruisers and battleships there needs to be something to do. Asking players to pay to sit in a dock to level maybe fine for vets, but it's not how to attract and keep newer players. They outgrown level 1/2 missions, but level 3/4 are out of reach in a frigate (or they can make the mistake of jumping into a battlecruiser without the weapons/defense skills and now out of ships that insurance doesn't payout to replace).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

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