Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The low sec 'steadily dying' statement is one I have to agree with. I still remember the old days back then when Hedaleofarber had over 100 carebears in it and half and istodard had 50 and 75 people. By people I mean the very carebear targets pirates and pvpers alike thrive on. This was back in the day of MH-Sec intel channel. It was glorious with multibillion isk ships running missions, hearing the call in MH-Sec of a few pirates, then flying out with that very multibillion isk ship to reclaim our space.

Pirates used to say that you know your a good pirate when you can go into Molden Heath, pop someone, and survive.

Those numbers all went downhill within a month or so when the initial probing changes first hit and ship scanning in mission rooms became much much easier. Afterall, scanning down a multiple bilion isk ship in less than 30 seconds in a mission that took 20 minutes and more to run is not only unprofitable for the mission runner, it is suicide. That one change killed Molden Heath population and it never regained those population levels. Ever.

You see, when you remove the ability to make isk in an area, you remove the reason for being there. When there is no reason to be in an area, there aren't going to be very many fights. It is going to be interesting to see if the number of kills in low sec stays high per CCP stats, or if they are currently high because of the changes to aggression mechanics/gate guns in low and will lower over time.

Anyways, thanks for answering CCP Fozzie, even though we obviously dont agree with the decision.

Oh, don't get me started :) When a single dead-end system had a standard local of 20+ and its own security channel where mission runners teamed up against any hostile action, it kinda speaks for itself. I really miss all the trill of 'can I break that golem's tank before his backup arrives?', nowadays it's more of 'lol, what a noob would bring a marauder to run missions in low-sec?'.

It's really sad to see low-sec having degenerated into a crappy FW of endless blobbing frigs and tech1 cruisers.

I learn something new everytime Olley posts...

We had a working, well stocked, low sec market as well. Still remember the chatter in MH-Sec when a ganker would buy something in Hedaleofarber from one of the industrial corps. The indi corp would then let MH-Sec channel know "so-and-so just bought a thorax with web and scram" and we would wait for him to jump on someone in the belts and/or try to bait the person in the belts.

Sneaky little industrial anti-pies.

I'm going to go ahead and bump this because I don't want this thread to die.

Also, I need something to read while I poop.

Keep the replies coming.

Also, bring back the static plexes.

Edit: spelling

Hi, my name is Carry!

I used to live in Molden Heath,

when can I come home?

Bump

yes Molden Heath Infamous Staging Area for Null-Sec fleet operations.

Come for the ambience.........briefly

Then get podded home by a hot-dropped blob!


It sounds much more exciting than the area being a mere dull hangout of piracy and small gang pvp doesn't it.....

The longer we go without a resolution from CCP on this issue, the more and more I think that CCP does not understand their sandbox. If it really is that they saw these plexes as taking away from the game..... I have to ask what they consider good gameplay. More than anything these plexes represent emergent gameplay. CCP used what is essentially the same mechanic to create faction warfare. Not surprisingly faction warfare comes across more like scripted content in comparison to these plexes.

This is very well put/observed. Maybe CCP is trying to shepherd the gameplay styles into a select number of groups. As it has been said many times, these complexes promoted emergent gameplay in lowsec. I cannot call FW emergent in the slightest as it was designed to that particular end, and to those who like that style of play it is very successful. But taking away a vibrant focal point of the game from an area that was all ready lacking in content does not seem like the kind of move that a company like CCP would encourage.

I still after 3 months (almost 4) do not understand the benefit that myself and the other dwellers of low sec have received from the removal of these complexes. I know that my gameplay has become considerably less exciting, so if that was the end goal, congrats CCP (slow clap).
What I would like to see, or to have really is have Fozzie or another dev give in full detail how myself (generic lowsec dweller) should be enjoying the benefits that have abounded from this supposedly positive change. Clearly I am missing something because I have seen no benefit at all.

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