Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What about using the Incursion site spawning mechanism for these DED sites: that is, the beacon shows up in local, but the site despawns after being completed only to appear elsewhere in the same system. This allows a gathering point, doesn't require two ships or a poorly fitted single ship, and eliminates the possibility of camping the end room for profit.

low-sec only, keep them on overview, but shuffle them around like normal plexes (so that the booster-faggots have to make SOME effort to camp them)

if that's not feasible, then I think the change is better than the former status quo

I love the idea for the same reason that Michael does, but I have to ask (because I have no idea how incursion sites work), won't that mean that as soon as the site is complete, or shortly there after it will disappear entirely and no longer appear on the overview? Because if that's the case it won't work for what we desire, which is a PVP hotbed.

Depending on the ship being used it takes 2-5 min to run those, and that is too narrow a window for PVP to occur reliably (I am obviously going under the assumption that it disappears here). Should it disappear after being run and only appear when it is ready to run, someone will run the site as soon as it shows up, thus eliminating the beacon, meaning that for the hour and a bit between spawns there will be no place that acts as a PVP hotbed. It is the static nature of these beacons that is one of the key aspects here. Even when the complex is not spawned, in fact especially when the complex is not spawned it attracts people to it to check it out and PVP ensures, and if it disappears the whole point of having it is defeated. Yes the PVE aspect would be appreciated, but that is the minor part of bringing them back.

Sadly to avoid third room camping I feel that new coding is required in order to make the complexes viable if they are to be brought back. Making it so that as long a player remains inside the plex all the gates remain unlocked would help for most campers, and preventing cloaking in the second and third rooms would stop the cloaking campers (should there be no player in the third or second rooms all the gates lock again making a key required to get back in).

This would keep the PVP happening and in all likelihood given the scarcity of the 2/10 complexes in high sec be a HUGE boon to PVP in these systems (I get chills just thinking about it).

Sylvous

So, CCP Bettik ganked my Venture :P

In all seriousness, being destroyed and then having my pod blown up didn't really bother me much. I did read the Bio of the person who killed me (Turgesson), and was curious as to what he was talking about in it, so I opened a conversation with him.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a crybaby post. I didn't lose much. I'm not upset, and have no reason to be upset. I don't even do Low-Sec yet, as I'm still pretty new to the game. After talking to him (He killed me, so what? He is a pretty nice guy) about it, and reading this thread, I can say that it's kind of crummy to take this away from the players.

People obviously enjoy this feature, and it seems neat. A place with ship restrictions that is marked and known to be a PVP spot where you can fight over loot/resources? It seems like EVE is built around PVP, and taking away the hotspots for PVP seems like it goes against what I originally got interested in the game for.

As I said, I'm not whining. I know full and well that when I undock from a station I am consenting to being trashed in PVP, be it in High-Sec or somewhere else. This is part of the game. At most, I'm thankful that I learned about something in the game I knew nothing about, and met a guy who AFTER he killed me actually gave me some advice on how to fit my ship properly to give myself a chance next time.

So, even though I'm a victim of being molested in High-Sec by Turgesson, I still support this thread. Why would you take away something that keeps your players coming back? It sounds like fun.


Does anyone care what new players think? Lol.

For every Patch there are 500+ Ereeres. I edited his name so he doesn't turn into a punching bag.

I don't really know what he's talking about either...the kill?...the 100k bounty for spamming KR notes at me? All I know is if you extend acts or Sutoka him he gets really really mad and rage logs.




I will not fight!
From: Eemere XXXxxxXXX
Sent: 2013.01.21 17:45
To: Turgesson,

Please remove the bounty from you within a week,

If you do not it will submit a report to the management "as a" psychological harassment ".

If you would extend to acts or Sutoka increase the bounty is

I will mail to each case management,

@ Turgesson & Schmata Bastanold

Try to keep this thread on topic guys. As I mentioned in a previous post people seem to have a tendency to read only the last page or two of posts on any given topic and thus miss out on a lot of good conversation about said topic (hence why CCP Fozzie and others brought up ideas that we had all ready discussed at length within the first 15 pages). The bad part about this is that if we let this thread degrade and move off topic we make it very hard to promote good conversation about what is in fact a very important topic that is currently being ignored by CCP (or maybe just not acknowledged would be a better way to describe it).

Sylvous

Yep,there is no discussion left just a bumped thread so we may as well have fun with it. We're getting what they are giving and can pound sand if we don't like it.

Thank god they did bring back the can flipping mechanic with some hero text pop up! Can you believe they said "with no interference"?


Edit: Either I read that blog post wrong or they edited it after everyone laughed at it. Honorable combat that is about to ensue! is still there though.

Awwww....you lost a static farmable resource.



Good!

The sooner they take belts out as well the better.

Move all the things into the exploration system.

A bump is a bump. One look at their killboard will show ya their skills stop at hitting a button and saying something dim-witted.

Well, not much of substance we can provide here unless we start copy/paste previous "on topic" posts. Thread has to be bumped to be visible for public but 20 more pages full of empty bumps won't do much better than our merry derailing.

Hmm, is that an example of catch 22 by any chance?

Oh, and bring static plexes back because pvp in lowsec fell into coma outside FW areas. And FW is lame, mkey?