EVE General Discussion

When I say things like "CCP doesn't have the resources", i'm not assessing a situation, I'm not guessing. CCP Unifex literally told us that they do not. In no uncertain terms. There was no vagueness or maybes, it was straight-up "we can't do one without taking from another, so the new thing gets temporarily shelved". That's straight from a senior producer. You'll pardon me if his information on the matter is a hell of a lot more trustworthy than you saying "well they did a thing in X months therefore".

What are you even saying? CCP Unifex is wrong? Remember, not only does he have the benefit of actually knowing what the production would entail (unlike any of us), he's making the decision with considerations we don't have to make, what with this being his job and all. They're the ones with money and livelihoods on the line, so to look their decision in the eye and say "NUH-UH YOU TOTALLY COULD" is as ridiculous as it gets.

The problem isn't that CCP doesn't have the resources to make it happen, they do, but as Snow Axe has pointed out, they can't do one without taking from the other. In order to finish WiS they will need to take a lot of people away from FiS. Personally...I don't think this is a bad thing at all. Yes...EvE is a game about spaceships...but it will be an even better game about spaceships when we have WiS finished in a proper manner with some relevant gameplay added to it. The more diversity we have in EvE the longer EvE will last and the more people will play. Both of these are essential to the success of EvE and CCP as a whole.

The way I see it, CCP has done some great work recently focusing on fixing the core game, balancing ships, reworking graphics, and fixing all the annoying little bugs that are out there. If they can get the ship balance and V3 work completed which will likely take another year or two, then they should take the time to finish WiS. FiS players should have nothing to ***** about by that point and if they do...**** em. Let them ***** and let CCP finish WiS so EvE can be closer to the sci fi simulation they dream it to be, something it CAN'T be without WiS.

And what I'm telling you is they used the information from said prototype development to make the decision of whether or not they could fully realize WiS with their current resources. They decided they could not. Brinigng up the prototype doesn't really help your argument at all.

in have it sometimes on ,sometimes not at this moment
But even on that 1 room ,CCP promises and don,t deliver.
Team Absent asked in features and ideas about ideas what to do with that one room.
A lot of nice ideas came up ,like the ones to give those useless screens some function.
They gave a lot of people ,the idea that they ware working on Avatar content.
but i think CCP likes to promise and then hide it out and have a good laugh about it.

People, keep this thread civil and on topic!

No posts have been deleted or edited yet, but I have to urge you to stop making personal attacks on people who happen to have a different view point on the topic at hand.

Please consider this a warning.

I appreciate your argument, but it seems you are forgetting that a number of players believe any focus on WiS is too much, and the reality that if it is being developed, those players will see that as impacting the development of FiS, even if CCP were to hire another 400 people to work on it and additional features for FiS too.

That argument was laid out a long time ago, and it result in CCP downsizing and losing a good portion of their development team. Without it being acceptable for them to work on WiS from a particular group of players perspective, they had ne need of those extra staff, so the were cut.

At least, that's what I gathered at the time, and I believe it also had something to do with the NEx being trashed so heavily when revenues from that would have helped pay for development. Even with all those extra staff on the development team, players believed that they should all focus on FiS.

You see what I'm getting at? It will never be acceptable in any degree for those particular members of the player base.

This is why I take CCP Unifex's post with a grain of salt. I know there is a very good chance he is just trying to placate that crowd and keep them from opening the gates of hell again, while trying to keep the hope alive for others that it might still happen one day. Maybe it will, if those players are finally satisfied.

They never will be of course, as it goes against their nature to be satisfied with anything.

Most of the players were content with the decision that there was a need to put recourses more on the flying part in this game.
But people who do Fly in space and also liked WIS were happy with only a few devs continuing on some Avatar stuff.
At least ,they were happy ,with the promise of that.
But there are people in this community ,who are never satisfied enough.
Even the few Devs they had on team Absent had to do other things.

This resulted in a few hope giving promises

Prototyping ,there is nothing to show for
CQ, asked by the devs for ideas on extra functionality,they never touched it.
Tattoos ,nothing done with it.

When Team Avatar was announced ,those devs kept working on other things.
A good example is CCP Karkur(no attack ,she did nice things )


i can reflect on a decision,but don,t give hope on something you won,t do

therefore Team Avatar is Team Absent

My main concern is the lack of concept disclosure, if devs publicize tangible words on gameplay concepts that don't suck balls as in barbie dressup and emoting at the fountain, they will find the a nice change in the subscriber landscape in terms of wis support. If it opens up a new "ecology" or what you want to call it and expands the game then hell yes I would support taking resources away from fis for it but it needs to be approved by players. They need to know that they do not have unconditional support for wis, and in order for us to be supporting wis we need to first know what the hell exactly we are supporting.

Much time has passed it is time to show those cards the devs' been holding close to their chests. Without further details I am inclined to believe that wis is nothing but useless barbie dressup appealing to only the few emote loving dudes posting here and should be scrapped. Please show that it was not bluffing.

We'll forgive you this time, but such transgressions will not be tolerated in the future.

Kill WoD. Watch more resources become available without affecting FiS development. Point nullified.