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NULL whiners mantra is getting tedious... and CSM lacks HI SEC representation

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#721 - 2012-09-04 15:25:14 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
I skipped over a lot of this thread but I get the gist that we need to do something big to get empire players involved in the process.

On an unrelated matter of concern specific to our 0.0 constituents, the CSM has had much success in our efforts to get CCP to remove the asteroid belts and agents from highsec. We're also trying to get CCP to increase the ISK/hour in 0.0 by actually giving 0.0 players some free ISK every hour but there may be some technical reasons why that can't happen.

We'll keep at it.

I don't care about those things, I want an update on the Anti-CONCORD Shielding module damnit.
Signal11th
#722 - 2012-09-04 15:25:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
I skipped over a lot of this thread but I get the gist that we need to do something big to get empire players involved in the process.

On an unrelated matter of concern specific to our 0.0 constituents, the CSM has had much success in our efforts to get CCP to remove the asteroid belts and agents from highsec. We're also trying to get CCP to increase the ISK/hour in 0.0 by actually giving 0.0 players some free ISK every hour but there may be some technical reasons why that can't happen.

We'll keep at it.



You know that bottle of booze that Martini left before he collapsed, you really shouldn't have drunk from it. Nice troll though, at least somebody has a good sense of humor nowadays.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#723 - 2012-09-04 15:27:14 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Rats wrote:
Give null sec player free isk every hour ???? you cannot be serious, and they call hi sec entitled.

Hook, line and sinker.



Doh Oops


Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#724 - 2012-09-04 15:27:57 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Rats wrote:
Give null sec player free isk every hour ???? you cannot be serious, and they call hi sec entitled.

Hook, line and sinker.

I feel pretty good about that. Not gonna lie.

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#725 - 2012-09-04 15:40:15 UTC
Not gonna lie - having Alek on the CSM is pretty much half awesome and half face palm. Big smile

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Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#726 - 2012-09-04 15:52:33 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Rats wrote:
Give null sec player free isk every hour ???? you cannot be serious, and they call hi sec entitled.

Hook, line and sinker.

I feel pretty good about that. Not gonna lie.


You got me, I'll stick my hands up to that, face palming as I type....


Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#727 - 2012-09-04 16:02:29 UTC
Rats wrote:
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Rats wrote:
Give null sec player free isk every hour ???? you cannot be serious, and they call hi sec entitled.

Hook, line and sinker.

I feel pretty good about that. Not gonna lie.


You got me, I'll stick my hands up to that, face palming as I type....


Tal


+1 for admiting it
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#728 - 2012-09-04 16:03:44 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
I've no idea what the republican vs democrat thing is, apart from the fact it makes americans pants on head ********

Please keep your anti-american feelings off this forum, thanks.

That's 'United States of America', with capitalisation, because it's a proper noun, traitor.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#729 - 2012-09-04 16:03:52 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
I skipped over a lot of this thread but I get the gist that we need to do something big to get empire players involved in the process.

On an unrelated matter of concern specific to our 0.0 constituents, the CSM has had much success in our efforts to get CCP to remove the asteroid belts and agents from highsec. We're also trying to get CCP to increase the ISK/hour in 0.0 by actually giving 0.0 players some free ISK every hour but there may be some technical reasons why that can't happen.

We'll keep at it.


I'm still waiting for my free isk, if it's not in my wallet in 3 minutes I want a recall election!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#730 - 2012-09-04 16:08:02 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
I skipped over a lot of this thread but I get the gist that we need to do something big to get empire players involved in the process.

On an unrelated matter of concern specific to our 0.0 constituents, the CSM has had much success in our efforts to get CCP to remove the asteroid belts and agents from highsec. We're also trying to get CCP to increase the ISK/hour in 0.0 by actually giving 0.0 players some free ISK every hour but there may be some technical reasons why that can't happen.

We'll keep at it.



You forgot to mention CSM7's influence in successfully moving Incursions from HI to NULL next patch but then again besides the cheering on of the decimation of Incursion communities in thier minutes CSM7's silence has been deafening there.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#731 - 2012-09-04 16:18:58 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
[quote=HollyShocker 2inthestink]
And for the record, I don't think I'm superior to you and others like you who live with this massive sense of personal entitlement, I KNOW I'm better than your type.




Most people that fail in real life seem to feel as you do. Gives them some sort of justification.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#732 - 2012-09-04 18:59:05 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
You forgot to mention CSM7's influence in successfully moving Incursions from HI to NULL next patch but then again besides the cheering on of the decimation of Incursion communities in thier minutes CSM7's silence has been deafening there.

Mission Accomplished, now the nullsec incursions are never run, pretty much. I think.

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Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#733 - 2012-09-04 19:10:13 UTC
As a wormhole pilot I can tell you why nullsec controls the CSM. They actually organize, and this gives them voter blocks. High sec also doesn't vote, and if they were politically conscious it wouldn't matter because there would be so many candidates to split that vote between--and lowsec/wh would vote with nullsec if it came to it. Not only that, their understanding of the game tends to be a lot deeper than high sec players, so I don't really have a problem with them being on the CSM. They understand how high sec works better than you do.
betoli
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#734 - 2012-09-04 19:24:43 UTC
Ryoken McKeon wrote:
As a wormhole pilot I can tell you why nullsec controls the CSM. They actually organize, and this gives them voter blocks. High sec also doesn't vote, and if they were politically conscious it wouldn't matter because there would be so many candidates to split that vote between--and lowsec/wh would vote with nullsec if it came to it. Not only that, their understanding of the game tends to be a lot deeper than high sec players, so I don't really have a problem with them being on the CSM. They understand how high sec works better than you do.


I think thats 100% true. Its also why some of us suggested different electoral models Big smile
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#735 - 2012-09-04 19:35:16 UTC
Ryoken McKeon wrote:
As a wormhole pilot I can tell you why nullsec controls the CSM. They actually organize, and this gives them voter blocks. High sec also doesn't vote, and if they were politically conscious it wouldn't matter because there would be so many candidates to split that vote between--and lowsec/wh would vote with nullsec if it came to it. Not only that, their understanding of the game tends to be a lot deeper than high sec players, so I don't really have a problem with them being on the CSM. They understand how high sec works better than you do.

... Well organization is a pretty powerful force.

Look what happens when blobs are formed.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#736 - 2012-09-04 19:35:35 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Rats wrote:
Give null sec player free isk every hour ???? you cannot be serious, and they call hi sec entitled.

Hook, line and sinker.

I feel pretty good about that. Not gonna lie.

Your proposed change doesn't really go far enough getting hisec involved in politics. How about convincing CCP to allow people to "buy tickets to the CONCORD ball" using AUR, granting them CONCORD immunity in hisec?

Just think about it: crowds gather to shoot the Jita statue once again, but suddenly.. EXPLOSIONS, as a small gang of all CSMs shows up in Tornados after paying off CONCORD, popping protesters left and right, and jettisoning cans reading "better vote next time, suckers!"

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#737 - 2012-09-04 19:37:03 UTC
Hisec titans for aur with AOE DD. That'll teach them peasants not to vote. :colbert:

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

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Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#738 - 2012-09-04 20:10:19 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

You forgot to mention CSM7's influence in successfully moving Incursions from HI to NULL


Because of this Lee Chanka welped a small cap fleet while doing said incursions Roll
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#739 - 2012-09-04 21:00:02 UTC
I don’t think most of you truly get it. The demographics of high sec is made up of people that just want to do their own thing and be left alone and not get involved in the forum trolling or what you call politics. Majority of these people work and have real jobs and real lives, they get enough of the asshats and pecker heads at work. They don’t want to get involved in the forums where the VAST majority on the un-silent minority are trolling basement dwellers.

Fortunately for this game, aside from the forum community this game is filled with good people willing to help and provide guidance for newer players, because if you subjected new players just to these forums you wouldn’t have the player base you now enjoy.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#740 - 2012-09-04 21:13:01 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The meme that CCP has a perennial “drive people out of high-sec” dilema is just a pile of bull *****. Come on that is a myth thats repeated over & over again by NULL trolls in hopes CCP starts believeing in it.

The only more moronic/tedious myth is James 315's UNABOMBEReske manifestos on how mining is the scurge of all Eve.-----------------------------------

Also it appears from the way this thread is moving the general lack of CSM represtation of pilots in HI SEC is lacking
Discuss...



Yup. As for the bolded part, I see him spouting off just about every time I pass through Halaima (sp) on my way back and forth from the systems I mine in. Useless drivel mostly.