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BUG REPORT:
I wanted to reiterate a bug I found when using shift-click spawned windows:
Select all in cargo hold --> drag and drop to jet can --> only grabs partial items randomly in the selected list, typically it only grabs one item at a time even though I have definitively done a "select all".

Someone suggested that this may be caused by a lack of available volume in the destination container. But my testing shows this phenomenon occurs consistently [consistently random] with ample space in the jet can. It is as if there is a volume limit on the mouse pointer...

The result of this bug is that you must move each item in the cargo hold one at a time, which adds a lot of time and extra clicking to what should be a quick transfer of cargo.

I will also repeat that salvage ops and/or any task that requires a lot windows open has become a seriously tedious, slow and painful process.

As for corporate culture at CCP:
I'm just wondering why you guys are so self destructive in terms of burning down the provider/client relationship via publishing seriously flawed code after you were warned/informed repeatedly well prior to the patch date? Are you intentionally griefing your paying customers ? Seeking a root cause goes beyond the bad design and buggy code. The root problem is huge amounts of arrogance and pride coupled with a paternalistic attitude and hierarchical thinking that manifests as burning out your support systems, i.e., your paying customers. I'm in this game to have fun. You make that impossible - repeatedly - with a dysfunctional provider/client relationship. You may eventually fix the bad code, but I am convinced you will never fix the root causes.

This is a good question, maybe CCP hiding something behind this inventory patch, maybe they will introducing new personal container/wreck ownership stuff and this is a needed part of it. Maybe this is bring to end to begining of ninjalooting/stealth from other wrecks or this is needed part for Dust 514 (guess to me this inventory UI same such a console UI for gamepads), i dont know, maybe CCP will answer it. But the facts is facts this is a half-developed thing and need moving back to testserver. Done when is done, we dont care, but dont make angry their playerbase-costumers with a crap unfinished inventory, what they dont want it.

After yesterdays patch the inventory gets better.

Here is my list of bugs to fix

* The filter (for a single window) hickups while there are much items present and you are typing fast
* mass moving items from one window into another is taking much more time than bevore (but not always)
* "my filters" opens after every docking / logging in even when it was down before (the minimize-button rememers it's state - you have to click two times to minimize again)
* after closing an inventory window (when having multiple windows open) a new one opens at the default position
* Sometimes corp hangar does not show up in the tree
* expanding the corp hangar is taking to much time
* if you click again at the expand - icon for the corp hangar while it's still searching for himself, it closes when the update is done
* after moving all items from a window the item count and price does not update

Additionally:

We need a way to access different locations faster / and let them stay open at a fixed position ( CCP Soundwave wrote aboout shortcuts to locations - that would be very welcome)

To confirm what Mournful said. It's annoying when living in WH space.

If you want to pick a ship due a certain thing that's happening and you've to wait 20 to 30 seconds before the list on top of you to pick a ship. When entering, you're loosing another 5 seconds due to the dropping framerate, reloading of the contents & etc.!

Same when managing your corp hangar, it takes time included framerate drop because everything that's in the surrounding has to be loaded inside and the estimate is getting checked!

Drag & Dropping from cargo to array's and vise versa results once again in Framerate drops & stuttering and there's a bloody Large list to pick from on everything which has cargo space!

tbh, the previous where better after some managing as the estimate is truly not necessary hence, living in WH space, you're usually picking the nearest trade hub!



And currently, When NOT using missiles, I don't have sound crashes and restarts. When I do use them my sound keeps on starting & crashing out and from hearing around, if you want to enable/disable with escape menu, your client tends to crash!
I have logserver running for a full scale report, next time I'll C3 around, you might receive a LARGE logfile!

Starting with the POS side of things,

Realisticly, most people do not access their sentry guns on a daily basis, I don't remember the last time I even opened any of mine. Having them load (and lag) everytime I land in the pos field and access the corp hanger is a pain.
Naming of ALL pos modules is a worthwhile and well overdue change.

Divisions in corp hanger need to be remembered when you close corp hanger/open another structure, so If I leave the pos to collect some PI goo, when I land back in pos and open corp hanger, it should still be in my PI goo division.

Please allow stacking of identical spec BPC's.

Looting
Looting wrecks is very laggy, if you are ninja'ing a wreck in a cloaky, you want to land, loot all while aligning and warp out, you don't want to be sitting there watching spinny circles wondering if a recon or bomber is going to decloak in front of you.
This also applies to looting mission sites, pulling in 30 or 40 wrecks to your noctis and having to shift-click every wreck, loot all, then click on next can etc is again, very laggy and quite frustrating.

Giving the right click option to view a can or structure in "Classic view" would be a nice compromise, much the same way as the "load station environment" option is.

Ship things
The removal of the right click on ship options to view corp hangers, drone bay etc is very annoying, imagine if someone moved the keys around on your keyboard, you could live with it, but everything would be slow and you'd make a lot of mistakes.

Double clicking of ships when docked should open thier cargo bay, not select them as active ship. Again, this is counter to what everyone is used to and makes very little difference to you, but makes a big difference to us.

Ship hanger should open in it's own window and look different to other inventory, you must understand, it breaks immersion when you have your assembled, named ships showing up in the same way as a pile of Trit or ammo.
We like to see a seperate hanger of our ships, like looking into a garage of cars and choosing which we want to drive today.

Generally, the main issue I have is the lack of continuity, If I set up so my cargo bay appears in top left corner of screen and my ship hanger appears centre of screen when I dock, thats what I want EVERYTIME I dock, I don't want to spend 5 minutes everytime I log on or dock dragging widnows around, resizing and wearing out my shift key.

Frigate changes

Hmmmm, really neccessary?
Removal of one races mining frig, but the others keep theirs? seems unbalanced.
Caldari frig with it's launcher slots removed seems un-Caldari.

Punisher already had a 5% armor resist bonus
Merlin already had a 5% shield resist bonus
Are both these in addition to the old 5% bonuses??



I thank you for your work on attempting making this all operate properly, however, it seems to me that a lot of these things should have been ironed out before the roll out to TQ, not after. (You have a test server, utilise the feedback from it's users)

You had all that feedback https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104539 what did you do with it ?

This.

I know . If everybody join us to make them understand that WE need the old list back . So they don't have any choice and fix this old list back.

Join us !

And why we can't understand ? I tell to you, because this inventory is not done and does not working fine.
Just as i said we are not aplha tester, we are players, they do not testing their half finished job on players. Put to TQ when finished and WORKING well. But in this form this inventory a nightmare and just foments players.

i have several time asked a simple question but CCP keeps consistently deleting my posts...

do we live in a censored community or didnt you liked my question?


so once again mu question...

are you or are you NOT considering to listen to the majority of the customers?

either remove or make it optional...

removing posts witch do not consists rants or faul language should not be removed but answered like any other question