Crime & Punishment

ill be the first to admit it im a god dam carebear and proud off it i play eve to collect ships. (suz there shinny). i have lost my fair share of ships and i was pissed every dam time. but if your going to come on to the forum and whine and say u are going to leave because a computer generated image got blown up buy another computer generated image firing computer generated images. if u missed the point there its a freaking (highly addictive) game. just shut the f up and leave already we dont need to hear your whining.

You know. I used to hate the idea of Hulkageddon and decry the participants as useless idiots, bullies and griefers. I still do not participate in it, but that is my choice and my play style (This is not of a sense of "honor" or "superiority": I have none. I roam lowsec and kill stuff I can kill, and run away from things I cannot and I just prefer this to suicide ganking. I've been known to canflip, though. Again, I claim no superior moral ground: In fact, I claim I have no morals in EVE - I am here on a vacation from the real world, not to argue philosophy and "morals", which are inevitably subjective anyway).

Then I started thinking about why it makes sense: EVE is a Sandbox game. It is essentially run by the players. Anything that takes away from this premise is a bad-thing(tm), and everything which empowers players is a good-thing(tm). Granted, highsec is needed. It is needed because some players enjoy purely the economic aspects (I have a friend whose tales of market warfare often sound as interesting as my other friends' combat exploits, sometimes, when the impact is big enough, they are even more so) and because the game population is too low to maintain a "center of civilization", which highsec is.

However, this does not mean that Highsec is safe. I frequently (pretty much always) feel safer roaming lowsec then I am moving things in highsec. The amount of traffic, the bumping on undocks and the ganker gangs are much more frequent than lowsec gatecamps (except some notorious systems, which are left for the reader as a test of his EVE knowledge). It is completely fine: This pressure is what keeps people shifting between the various locations in EVE, it is what keeps them changing their lifestyles and interests. This is exactly what keeps the game alive and vibrant.

For me, the following video sums up the game perfectly, and I love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738

If you're smart, you will avoid 99.99% of all gank attempts in EVE. If you are silly (like mining, say, next door from Rens), then you will get ganked sooner or later, but nearly inevitably. It isn't surviving a gank that you should be worried about, it is avoiding becoming a target in the first place. Mine in low population systems, mine away from market hubs (you have friends/corp/alts with a freighter to move your stuff, right? If not, you're playing EVE wrong), do not be lazy, do not fall into patterns, do not mine in belts which can be scanned from the entry gates (because then you're the first one on dscan and the first one to get ganked), do tank your Hulk (or be even more paranoid, both are quite valid), keep an eye on local, keep an eye on the d-scan, learn the local population (Who is a miner? Who is a lowsec pirate coming in for a rest in highsec? Who is a bot? If you choose a quiet system you will have this nailed down in a few days at most), be suspicious of new arrivals and NEVER, EVER, mine AFK.

EVE is a woman of dubious virtue (damn profanity filter), but she's awesome in bed, so you put up with her kicking you in the nuts if you get too cozy around her. That's exactly what makes EVE a great game and why there is nothing nearly like it out there.

It might not be your cup of tea, but the label on that cup of tea reads "Warning: Contents Downright Evil" as labelled for years by the gaming media (they do love to exaggerate, too), so you knew exactly what you were getting into, or failed to realize it very quick.

This. This a thousand times over. It is the players who need to adapt, not the ships.

Why is this thread still going?

I usually find the most egregious of carebears are the ones who go for "SP elitism" and I am not seeing an exception here.

But keep on giving me reasons about how you would do something, but also won't.

Not being on grid when they land is proven to result in a 100% reduction in damage application.

Now, if only CCP would add a tool into the game to let players see what ships are in space near to them

Remove local and people will start using it.

Seems to me she stated on several occassion she isn't a miner. Try reading before insulting perhaps.

Meh, don't know about that. Seems she is arguing about a game mechanic she disagrees with. I am a miner, its all I do. Am too old a man to fight young people in pvp and I feel eve developers have made sitting ducks out of us. There didn't used to be suicide gankings going on all the time but now there is so I think ships or high sec mechanics should change to make it more fair. I tank my Hulk but I know it can be ganked without much effort, people are blowing smoke when they say it has such high ehp.

They give fair warning.

I've been mining away both Ore and Ice everyday of H'geddon so far.

If one has not the ability to use an alt to summon CONCORD to your belt for protection (and an alarm WHEN THEY LEAVE THE BELT)...then I just don't know what to say.