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Dominion market analysis : sky's the limit on technetium (long term)

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-02-23 15:18:00 UTC
Obviously the only real explanation is "duping".

Technetium is a "bottleneck". When general demand rises, the "bottleneck" gets squeezed and prices rise. Significant price shift trends create volatility in those prices as they shift to a new equilibrium. Price volatility leads to temporary imbalances in inputs and outputs, which are then corrected by the market.

That or "duping".
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#42 - 2012-02-23 15:38:28 UTC
Advanced material market prices usually lag behind raw material market prices by anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks.
The intermediate reaction market prices are based on a tiny sampling and are subject to wild and unpredictable swings.
Add a recent raw technetium price spike and that already explains almost everything that needs explaining.
TornSoul
BIG
#43 - 2012-03-06 21:00:06 UTC
Hmmm Tc about to go nuclear?

415K units in 11 sell orders only on the market in Jita as of right now.

Never ever seen that little up for sale....

Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-03-06 21:04:49 UTC
It was wiped out to scraps at 150k pu two weeks ago.

Definitely a strong upward trend with all this activity (general demand for ships and mods).
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-03-21 13:05:44 UTC
So I'm going to take the fact that nobody posts about technetium anymore as a sign that few people are speculating in the tech market anymore...
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#46 - 2012-03-21 16:10:43 UTC
The goons did it!


/looks around


Hey I beat Brock to it. Lol

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo

Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#47 - 2012-03-22 09:05:44 UTC
This thread again......
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#48 - 2012-03-25 15:21:43 UTC
Well, given the "sledgehammer knocking on very thick styrofoam ceiling"-looking nature of the market price graph in the past few months, I'd say the undeath status of the thread is at least mildly justifiable.
But yeah, even I grow somewhat tired of it - after all, it's been what, almost two and half years since the first post ?
TornSoul
BIG
#49 - 2012-03-27 17:44:32 UTC
Better one thread than a new post every 2-4 weeks P
Countesss
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-03-27 17:52:50 UTC
Ring mining...the death of techs sky limit? Will be fun to see the panic and crashingPirate
TornSoul
BIG
#51 - 2012-03-27 18:12:48 UTC
I think we'll still have at least a year before we'll have to worry about that Big smile
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-03-27 18:23:03 UTC
I don't see why there will be "panic and crashing".

People will still want T2 stuff right up until the minute that the new sourced materials start hitting the market. Far more likely is a slow decline as you get within a month of the change, then a slightly steeper decline as the new material actually starts hitting the market down to whatever target area ccp is aiming for, if they dont f it up.

It will all be very anti-climactic.
Countesss
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-03-27 19:38:01 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
I don't see why there will be "panic and crashing".

People will still want T2 stuff right up until the minute that the new sourced materials start hitting the market. Far more likely is a slow decline as you get within a month of the change, then a slightly steeper decline as the new material actually starts hitting the market down to whatever target area ccp is aiming for, if they dont f it up.

It will all be very anti-climactic.



Same reason most prices inflate or deflate drastically...the speculators either hoarding or dumping their stocks. Soon as the change is official, I can guarantee the price bursts. Surely some interesting days ahead for tech.

Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#54 - 2012-03-27 19:39:25 UTC
Countesss wrote:
Ring mining...the death of techs sky limit? Will be fun to see the panic and crashingPirate


Depends where you can ring mine tech. If it's in high sec (I don't think CCP is dumb enough to do that), then you probably will see a big crash in tech. If it's in deepest darkest 0.0, then that could drop tech a bit, but not enough to cripple it. If it's only found in the most hellish of wormholes, then you might not see a dent in tech production.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-03-27 19:44:47 UTC
Countesss wrote:
Same reason most prices inflate or deflate drastically...the speculators either hoarding or dumping their stocks. Soon as the change is official, I can guarantee the price bursts. Surely some interesting days ahead for tech.


You're assuming people have speculative stockpiles. The price has risen 50% and nothing has come to market besides what would be coming out of moons. Even if there were, you're suggesting that people who are holding through the fastest rise in a year, will suddenly panic sell as a mechanic change they know is coming gets introduced?

You basically made an off-the-cuff remark without putting any thought into it or having any knowledge of the subject, and now you look a little silly.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#56 - 2012-03-27 21:53:28 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Countesss wrote:
Same reason most prices inflate or deflate drastically...the speculators either hoarding or dumping their stocks. Soon as the change is official, I can guarantee the price bursts. Surely some interesting days ahead for tech.


You're assuming people have speculative stockpiles. The price has risen 50% and nothing has come to market besides what would be coming out of moons. Even if there were, you're suggesting that people who are holding through the fastest rise in a year, will suddenly panic sell as a mechanic change they know is coming gets introduced?

You basically made an off-the-cuff remark without putting any thought into it or having any knowledge of the subject, and now you look a little silly.



Holding a mountain of Tech you bought at 135k i bet!
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-03-27 22:16:55 UTC
Herman Klaus wrote:
Holding a mountain of Tech you bought at 135k i bet!


That's because you're an idiot.

**** it actually, let's bet. Name the bet, loser pays 3rd party costs.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#58 - 2012-03-27 23:00:42 UTC
Y U NO MAKE SENSE
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-03-27 23:07:57 UTC
You said that "you bet", so let's bet. Put a few billion down on your bet, if you're so sure.

Or were you just making a useless throwaway comment?
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#60 - 2012-03-27 23:11:46 UTC
Trolololol