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[June] Nullsec Asteroid Cluster and Excavator Drone changes

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#581 - 2017-06-06 18:09:28 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:

Because anything I say will be taking as the Gospel of CCP.

Tissues are 5 isk.

At the risk of commenting on moderation...this post warmed my heart. Smile

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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#582 - 2017-06-06 18:11:36 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Sometimes I still like to go back to the initial threads about the Rorqual changes and laugh at all of the shrill, shrieking children who adamantly insisted that nobody was going to put a Rorqual in a belt.
Lol



That's because they fell for the same kind of thinking CCP once did. You know, how Titans and Supers would never be very popular because omg that cost so much? Fast forward to 2017 and EVE has more Nyxs than Ibises lol.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#583 - 2017-06-06 18:14:16 UTC
Julie Hawke wrote:
Oh and i am NOT a goon so dont go there either

Correct, you're not. FCon. Former Goon pet. The goons wouldn't take the likes of you in your wildest dreams. Not even they're as **** as FCon.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Julie Hawke
30plus
Goonswarm Federation
#584 - 2017-06-06 18:19:01 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Julie Hawke wrote:
Oh and i am NOT a goon so dont go there either

Correct, you're not. FCon. Former Goon pet. The goons wouldn't take the likes of you in your wildest dreams. Not even they're as **** as FCon.


Wow that's harsh,,,...what did I ever do to you:?

Nevermind....you will just spill some garbage that no one really wants to hear

Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#585 - 2017-06-06 20:34:59 UTC
Vernorius Astartis wrote:
guys whatever your posting.....be real and ask yourself the question.....are they gonna listen to all the suggestions your making ?



i can live with the rorqual nerf.....but the respawn timer is killing the game for people that are industrialists and only have a couple of gametime per week.....you come home and think..yeah i have time and can play a lil bit of eve....BUT...damm no stuff to mine.


Go to the neighboring system?
It's a 5 hour respawn, not 24 hours. I find it very unlikely that an entire region's worth of colossals will be mined out within a 5 hour period of time. What this will cause is likely system usage being split into timezones. EU mine out a system, so it's worthless for early US. US mine out a system it's worthless for AUTZ. The cycle continues, but that's not really a bad thing. If you try to pack several timezones into a single system then ya, some people are going to get shafted. But nothing is preventing them from moving over other than stubbornness.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#586 - 2017-06-06 20:41:44 UTC
Nasar Vyron wrote:


Go to the neighboring system?
It's a 5 hour respawn, not 24 hours. I find it very unlikely that an entire region's worth of colossals will be mined out within a 5 hour period of time. What this will cause is likely system usage being split into timezones. EU mine out a system, so it's worthless for early US. US mine out a system it's worthless for AUTZ. The cycle continues, but that's not really a bad thing. If you try to pack several timezones into a single system then ya, some people are going to get shafted. But nothing is preventing them from moving over other than stubbornness.

Or you know, that 20 minute timer on the small.
Or the actual belts.
That guy with limited playtime is normally not the guy multiboxing 20 rorquals anyway. He's the guy with a few barges and maybe an orca.
And chances that every single anom is mined out at the same time are virtually zero.
Yzebel Baalshillek
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#587 - 2017-06-06 21:39:28 UTC
Vernorius Astartis wrote:
guys whatever your posting.....be real and ask yourself the question.....are they gonna listen to all the suggestions your making ?



i can live with the rorqual nerf.....but the respawn timer is killing the game for people that are industrialists and only have a couple of gametime per week.....you come home and think..yeah i have time and can play a lil bit of eve....BUT...damm no stuff to mine.


+ 1
Panther X
Dreadnoughtz Conclave
Requiem Eternal
#588 - 2017-06-06 22:01:30 UTC
Tyranus Kai wrote:
Vladameir wrote:



I oh so rarely post... But I had to login and quote this. CCP really needs to think about other ways to tackle how capital ships mine and boost/haul/compress

CCP come up with some more ideas rather than just nurfing things. While the idea of the timers is admirable, the amount of the timers is ridiculous and will only hurt the smaller miner people. There will certainly be a psychological hit with this as well.


The best plan would be to remove the excavators, refund the SP's for the mining drone specialisation, and replace them with a capital mining laser. CCP could then mess with cycle time, mined amount and laser range without taking off and nerfing mining from orbit. Heck make it usable only with the core active and use crystals at twice the speed of subcap strip miners, that would at least make you keep an eye on crystal usage.

Although seeing as this change will be live in under 7 days and not one dev reply to this thread, well yeah.....


That in itself isn't a bad idea. They would have to rework the high slots giving the rorq two turrets. That would take away utility highs, and cause all sorts of other nonsense, but that I wouldn't mind seeing an initial work up on it.

My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...

Soko99
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#589 - 2017-06-06 22:27:23 UTC
I think the most disturbing part about this change.. is that it's 30 pages in. and not a single DEV response.

JC Mieyli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#590 - 2017-06-06 22:35:56 UTC
nullbears and their comfort zones Roll
Ebony Texas
Un4seen Development
Sev3rance
#591 - 2017-06-06 22:40:22 UTC
Dear Fozzie

Just Nerf mining to the point that its just removed from the game.. yes I said it!.. get rid of it cause obviously you sit there and make a change just to rehash the change you made a yr later.

get rid of mining all together and sell us mineral packs for plex.

thanks
Canarisis
Red October.
Red Alliance
#592 - 2017-06-07 00:22:51 UTC
Hello everyone and here is my story.

For a long time i was a simple battle carebear(the deference between them is that i usually spent isk on pvp ships) and farm anomalies on my little carrier. The time is go and i started to hate farm on carrier. Every anomaly drew out my soul and less and less i entered the game. But when i heared about rorquals rework i thought that is the hope, another one thing that i didn't try in this game. I take myself to my hand and farm those huge amount of isk to buy a rorq, fit and excavators. It costs me 10 b of and 3 weeks.

So when i started to mining in the belts on the rorq i feel that i am the mining titan. Light isk came to me and i forgot about the way how i earned them. Then there were the first nerf. I thought that CCP made a mistake in ore yield and i gave them a chance. After some months came another nerf. With suspecting that something wrong i gave ccp another chance but my rorqua isl stoped giving me that feeling of uncredible power. And now i ve heard about this nerf. The mining pick fall to my legs and broke on many parts.

Today i sold my rorq. And those hateble farm on carrier stands in my view. Thank you CCP you are broke the thing i loved.

I m sorry for my incredibly painful englsh
Adeena Starfire
Moosearmy
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#593 - 2017-06-07 01:27:56 UTC

For the love of all things sane, PLEASE don't implement a 5 hour re-spawn timer on the Colossals!!!!!!!

UghUghUghUghUghUghUgh
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#594 - 2017-06-07 05:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Pahrdi
Had Fozzie posted this thread in GD, you'd barely noticed a difference Blink.

Remove standings and insurance.

Skia Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#595 - 2017-06-07 08:21:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Skia Aumer
This is a good change. The days of infinite ore are over, and imo infinite things should be exterminated wherever possible. Scarce resources can generate an interesting gameplay. AFAIK, the recent fight in HED-GP was staged over a moon - those are kinda important, as there is only 7 moons in that system. Too bad we dont have to care about the moons anymore with citadels. And citadels also have infinite offices, which is also boring.
Skia Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#596 - 2017-06-07 08:33:20 UTC
Adeena Starfire wrote:
For the love of all things sane, PLEASE don't implement a 5 hour re-spawn timer on the Colossals!!!!!!!

Your corp lives in a pocket with 5 systems below -0.5
I can understand how it impacts goons, but why is this a problem for you?
Texas Queens
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
#597 - 2017-06-07 08:43:11 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:
Adeena Starfire wrote:
For the love of all things sane, PLEASE don't implement a 5 hour re-spawn timer on the Colossals!!!!!!!

Your corp lives in a pocket with 5 systems below -0.5
I can understand how it impacts goons, but why is this a problem for you?


except the exact opposite is true, we have around ~90~ systems that we can mine in so a 5/4 hour re-spawn doesn't affect us.
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#598 - 2017-06-07 10:54:08 UTC
Texas Queens wrote:
...............

except the exact opposite is true, we have around ~90~ systems that we can mine in so a 5/4 hour re-spawn doesn't affect us.


And if ~90 systems weren't enough - then we'd do something about it!

And hey - anyone looked in the Belts recently.............Roll

Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium

Panther X
Dreadnoughtz Conclave
Requiem Eternal
#599 - 2017-06-07 10:59:12 UTC
Soko99 wrote:
I think the most disturbing part about this change.. is that it's 30 pages in. and not a single DEV response.



That's because it's going to happen, despite the furor and bluster of the community at large.

My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...

Adeena Starfire
Moosearmy
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#600 - 2017-06-07 11:03:54 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:

Your corp lives in a pocket with 5 systems below -0.5
I can understand how it impacts goons, but why is this a problem for you?


I'm hoping it wont, but there are only a handful of strategic systems we can "safely" mine in ... and for a casual miner like me (only one Rorq) it may be hard for me to get to a system which still has a Colossal with quality ore left in it.

I can see a situation where some miners are just going to mine all the expensive ore, then more on to the next Colossal - There is going to have to be some sort of Alliance edict which stipulates miners must clear an anom before moving on to the next.

But time will tell how it plays out.... it's not like CCP are going to listen to us anyway.