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[June] Nullsec Asteroid Cluster and Excavator Drone changes

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2017-06-01 20:19:36 UTC
Hey folks.
We continue to keep a close eye on the impacts of the changes to mining ships that have been made over the past six months. After this observation we have decided that we need to make another intervention to keep the economy healthy. This isn't the first of such changes, and once again it is unlikely to be the last.

In the June release we are making a few targeted changes to Nullsec Asteroid Clusters (the ore anomalies created by the Ore Prospecting Array upgrade) and Excavator drones.

Firstly, we are adding a respawn cooldown to all Asteroid Cluster anomalies. This cooldown scales based on the size of the anomaly:
  • 20 minutes for the Small Asteroid Cluster
  • 1 hour for the Medium Asteroid Cluster
  • 2 hours for the Large Asteroid Cluster variants
  • 4 hours for the Enormous Asteroid Cluster variants
  • 5 hours for the Colossal Asteroid Cluster variants

These changes will only have a significant impact on the absolute busiest nullsec mining systems. The vast majority of nullsec miners will not be negatively impacted. The pilots mining in those few extremely busy systems will have the option of staggering when they mine, or simply spreading out to a few extra systems.

We are also making some more small adjustments to the Excavator drones themselves. In June the changes are:
  • About 9% less yield for Ore Excavators
  • 12.5% lower speed for Ore Excavators
  • About 11% longer cycle time for Ice Excavators
  • 10% lower speed for Ice Excavators


We will continue observing the economy after these changes and making adjustments as necessary to keep it healthy for all our players.

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joecuster
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#2 - 2017-06-01 20:36:15 UTC  |  Edited by: joecuster
Can we get any update on changes to making eve fun to play again?

It seems like none of the updates address any of the issues players have been reporting

CCP may want to implement some sort of vulnerability timer for the forums


Lebowski you're our only hope
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#3 - 2017-06-01 20:37:54 UTC
Did you panic after seeing the corrected MER numbers, friend?
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-06-01 20:37:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Henry Plantgenet
Are you trying to balance for player interaction?
It seems like you're trying to,
Because players can decide to make a particular market "unhealthy" by massively mining online just keep adding characters.

Something constructive:
Allow people to have the excavators orbit close to the rorqual while mining the asteroid.
Have the harvest set additionally affect mining drones. (increased range = less risk for losing the drones.)
Justin Andrard
Professional Sandbaggers
#5 - 2017-06-01 20:38:16 UTC
This isn't legit right?
Gretchen Sveltos
Jousting R Us
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2017-06-01 20:39:17 UTC
wut. this is nuts.
Richard McNoggin
Feeding the Geese
#7 - 2017-06-01 20:39:41 UTC
Instead of slowing the drones how about just reducing the yield more instead of making them even easier targets to hit? CCPlease
ROFL-HARRIS
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-06-01 20:40:26 UTC
paging salty goonies
Tron Blackdust
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-06-01 20:41:53 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey folks.
We continue to keep a close eye on the impacts of the changes to mining ships that have been made over the past six months. After this observation we have decided that we need to make another intervention to keep the economy healthy. This isn't the first of such changes, and once again it is unlikely to be the last.

In the June release we are making a few targeted changes to Nullsec Asteroid Clusters (the ore anomalies created by the Ore Prospecting Array upgrade) and Excavator drones.

Firstly, we are adding a respawn cooldown to all Asteroid Cluster anomalies. This cooldown scales based on the size of the anomaly:
  • 20 minutes for the Small Asteroid Cluster
  • 1 hour for the Medium Asteroid Cluster
  • 2 hours for the Large Asteroid Cluster variants
  • 4 hours for the Enormous Asteroid Cluster variants
  • 5 hours for the Colossal Asteroid Cluster variants

These changes will only have a significant impact on the absolute busiest nullsec mining systems. The vast majority of nullsec miners will not be negatively impacted. The pilots mining in those few extremely busy systems will have the option of staggering when they mine, or simply spreading out to a few extra systems.

We are also making some more small adjustments to the Excavator drones themselves. In June the changes are:
  • About 9% less yield for Ore Excavators
  • 12.5% lower speed for Ore Excavators
  • About 11% longer cycle time for Ice Excavators
  • 10% lower speed for Ice Excavators


We will continue observing the economy after these changes and making adjustments as necessary to keep it healthy for all our players.


A bad decision again
you read your own forums and better play your own game ?

sry but this is shi...again

just my 2 cents
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2017-06-01 20:42:30 UTC
Eh, yeah, I figured it was coming. The May MER should be interesting.

It seems like we could probably save both our time and your time by meeting you guys halfway. What's the maximum amount per day we should be permitted to mine?

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Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-06-01 20:42:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Siobhan MacLeary
Oh boy, more CCPL "lol nerf goons" changes.

I take it the latest MER made you do a spittake with your covfefe?

E: And here I was thinking CCP was okay with nullsec regions finally having the ability to locally produce everything. These changes are going to utterly kill nullsec mining again. Good job!

“Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave
Fire Elf
Carpe Noctem.
#12 - 2017-06-01 20:42:50 UTC
:thinking: 5 hours for a Collosal?
Mostlyharmlesss
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-06-01 20:44:50 UTC
Guys, people are being logged in too much, better make sure they only log in every 5 hours.

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xXchochiXx
Industrial Mining and Mayhem
Sigma Grindset
#14 - 2017-06-01 20:45:57 UTC
i know lets make rorqual useful again. oh wait 2 nerfs are not enough lets make a 12bil ship worse it should mine a decent amount. your having such a value on field to be worth it right its a shame be then again remember when people complain that a carrier killed there cruiser then fighter nerf came :( ccp listens to people crying about ****.

all this wasted sp
#wtsrorqual
Eonan Dmalum
Waffle Strategic Services
WAFFLES.
#15 - 2017-06-01 20:46:18 UTC
You guys have no idea what you're doing over there do you?
Cant tell Ifserious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2017-06-01 20:46:45 UTC
So I spend months training for a rorq and they are nerfed. I think I would make money isk now if I would just sell my character that has been training for months. You also nerf one of your biggest content creators in null sec atm. WTF kind of thinking is going on at ccp? NVM don't care just going to unsub.....
Sjugar02
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2017-06-01 20:47:00 UTC
Is this just ccp devs creating busy work for themselves? I know working is though but jesus man.

Let's introduce something obviously broken then spend the next 6 months balancing it!

How much actual work could the devs have done instead?
Lustig Allas-Rui
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-06-01 20:49:13 UTC
Why don't we try to cure the market by increasing demand instead of (trying to) reducing supply? With explosions and lost ships. This is EVE Online after all and not Mining Online.
Malou Hashur
Enterprise Holdings
#19 - 2017-06-01 20:49:15 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
These changes will only have a significant impact on the absolute busiest nullsec mining systems. The vast majority of nullsec miners will not be negatively impacted. The pilots mining in those few extremely busy systems will have the option of staggering when they mine, or simply spreading out to a few extra systems.




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Shiroe Kumamato
SoulPepper Expeditionary Force
#20 - 2017-06-01 20:50:07 UTC
Yeah, 5 hours for a collasal to re-spawn seems extreme. Does CCP ever un-nerf something if it proves a bad decision? Just curious, I'm still kinda new.
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