EVE General Discussion

You didn't lose access to a free service, you paid for a full one and got that instead. You don't get to have more on top of that without paying. Again, "more than one active toon" is on they paid menu only. And that includes training.

This thread has inspired me! I'm going to buy 10 more computers (hmmm since I have already bought one maybe they will let me uses the others for free) and play 10 alpha accounts and my paid account at the same time. That way I can gank myself.

You dont seem to understand the difference between so ething that costs something, and so ething that is free.

When I pay for an account, Im am actively contributing to the provider.
When I pay nothing, I do not. contribute to the provider.

When I pay to upgrade my account to Omega, I do so for the benefits.
I pay for that.

Whereas Alphas pay nothing.

It is irrational that I, as a paying customer, should not have access to the same free service as a nonpaying customer.
I should get the same free elements they get in addition to what I am paying for.
Why? Cos I am paying for the benefits. They arent.
Since their status is free, why shouldnt I as a paying customer get those free elements too?

Ergo, each Omega account should be able to fly an Alpha account simultaneously.
I PAID for my Omega status, and since Alphas are free, why shouldnt I have access to a congruent free Alpha too?
They cost nothing. Why shouldnt an Alpha account option be included in my PAID Omega option?

You have access just the same as anyone else. I pay for four accounts (yes I'm stupid) and the other day I started an alpha just to see what the new player experience stuff was like. So you can have an alpha. People with only an alpha don't have access to all the stuff people with paid accounts get and they can't have two alphas on at the same time. Paying customers like you and me are not getting ripped off, we have the same access and the same restrictions on alpha accounts.

I dont understand.

You are free to make a new account and pay nothing.

CCP does not prevent you from doing this.

CCP does not give you a warning message saying "Sorry, we have already detected an omega account belonging to this address, therefore you will not be able to make a new account".

The only restriction here is that you cannot have two active clients, one free and one paid, running at the same time.

You are still free to log on to your Omega account, fiddle around, log out, and then log into your alpha account.

You PAID for your Omega status. You get to fly your Omega account without any restrictions.

You DID NOT PAY for your Alpha account. You have the same restrictions as every other alpha account member.

Were you complaining about trial accounts as well? Did you think you should have had the right to fly a trial account alongside your paid account?

Paying for one account doesn't magically remove the limitations of another, completely separate account.

It is the ALPHA account that cannot be logged in concurrently. You did not pay for *that* account. You paid for a different account, and your paying for a different account has absolutely no bearing on the limitations applied to a completely separate account. This is all really quite simple.

Alpha accounts also can't train beyond certain skills. Paying for an omega account does not lift this restriction as it applies to a separate Alpha account.

Alpha accounts train at half the speed of an Omega account. Paying for an Omega account does not lift this restriction as it applies to a separate Alpha account.

Alpha accounts have a 24hr queue. Paying for an Omega account does not lift this restriction as it applies to a separate Alpha account.

Alpha accounts cannot be logged in concurrently with any other account. Paying for an Omega account does not lift this restriction as it applies to a separate Alpha account.

Saying that alphas do not contribute to the provider is a very narrow minded stance. Especially in a game like EvE which is all about players. They might not give money to CCP, but that does not mean that they do not contribute to the overall health of the game.

Their presence in our beloved sandbox alone makes the universe richer. More people = more content = more fun = higher motivation for people to actually subscribe.

Jennifer Starblaze

You need to read the rest of this thread and the linked thread.

This has already been addressed.

Nor does it refute that an Omega with an associated Alpha would contribute just as much if not more to the health of the game.
Especially since they are PAYING to do so.

I agree with what you wrote, just thought i'd highlight the part of your post that modern entitled people find utterly unacceptable.

Didn't CCP post like 3 or 4 Dev blogs covering this and have communicated with the Eve Community for extensive feedback to see what can be done with Alpha clones without them breaking the game and such a thing resulted in Alpha clones in the way they are now?