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CCP why can't I log an Omega and Alpha account on at the same time

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7Genius
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2016-11-20 04:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: 7Genius
As a paying customer for this game I think it is pretty disparaging that we can't have one Omega and one Alpha clone (an alt account) logged in simultaneously.

I figure since I am now one of the people supporting this game and have been for 9 years, I was very disappointed to learn that I can not have an alpha clone logged in at the same time as my Omega. Maybe you don't appreciate your paid customers support, maybe this hasn't come up as an issue for you yet but it's not exactly fair for those of us who pay for the game to not have access to at least on Alpha clone.

As far as I see it if I am paying for an Omega account I should still be able to access at least one Alpha, can you please respond to the community of paying players on this.
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#2 - 2016-11-20 05:10:34 UTC
It was also impossible before this change, to have a trial account and a subscribed account logged in together.

Why is it such an issue all of a sudden?
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#3 - 2016-11-20 05:12:56 UTC
It's not an issue all of a sudden, it's just another entitled brat complaining about the free stuff he got.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
Hazardous Company
#4 - 2016-11-20 05:14:35 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
It was also impossible before this change, to have a trial account and a subscribed account logged in together.

Why is it such an issue all of a sudden?



Because angry? Never not rage quit if you don't get exactly what you want, when you want.
7Genius
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2016-11-20 05:21:29 UTC
CCP fanbois out in full force.

Maekchu
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-11-20 05:29:20 UTC
Grrrr CCP!
Fatima Foont
#7 - 2016-11-20 05:34:19 UTC
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.
7Genius
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2016-11-20 05:41:59 UTC
Fatima Foont wrote:
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.



That is not the way it is being advertised to new players. Everything I have read is "EVE is free"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q here is the trailer

I guess that is just not the case for people who actually pay for the game.
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#9 - 2016-11-20 06:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
7Genius wrote:
Fatima Foont wrote:
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.



That is not the way it is being advertised to new players. Everything I have read is "EVE is free"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q here is the trailer

I guess that is just not the case for people who actually pay for the game.


Show me one thing you've read that claims "EVE is free" without any caveats. The limits you're complaining about have been known since this was announced. Just because you pay for an Omega account, that doesn't entitle you to run any number of free accounts on the side simultaneously. Do you have any idea how quickly and easily such a feature would be exploited to mess up the balance of the game? There's a damn good reason why you have to pay to have multiple accounts online at a time.

You call people 'fanbois' as if anyone that disagrees with you or is against you on this is one. Which is how I know you're hurling it around as a pejorative, and don't actually understand the meaning of the word, but I'll let you in on a little secret: fanboi is not synonymous with wrong, and as long as you continue to act like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum, hurling pejoratives around like that is about as meaningful as a child screaming "I hate you!" at his parents after being disciplined for doing something wrong.

Grow up. The fact that CCP has given away anything for free, anything at all, is ******* mindblowing, and you wanna sit there and whine about it? Get the **** out of here. Seriously, put your money where your mouth is, unsubscribe, biomass, and get the **** out of here. No one is going to miss you and your one little paid account.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-11-20 08:49:45 UTC
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#11 - 2016-11-20 08:51:33 UTC
7Genius wrote:
Fatima Foont wrote:
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.



That is not the way it is being advertised to new players. Everything I have read is "EVE is free"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q here is the trailer

I guess that is just not the case for people who actually pay for the game.

Who would have guessed that EvE is not free for people that pay for the game. TIL
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#12 - 2016-11-20 09:56:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Agondray
Remiel Pollard wrote:
7Genius wrote:
Fatima Foont wrote:
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.



That is not the way it is being advertised to new players. Everything I have read is "EVE is free"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q here is the trailer

I guess that is just not the case for people who actually pay for the game.


Show me one thing you've read that claims "EVE is free" without any caveats. The limits you're complaining about have been known since this was announced. Just because you pay for an Omega account, that doesn't entitle you to run any number of free accounts on the side simultaneously. Do you have any idea how quickly and easily such a feature would be exploited to mess up the balance of the game? There's a damn good reason why you have to pay to have multiple accounts online at a time.

You call people 'fanbois' as if anyone that disagrees with you or is against you on this is one. Which is how I know you're hurling it around as a pejorative, and don't actually understand the meaning of the word, but I'll let you in on a little secret: fanboi is not synonymous with wrong, and as long as you continue to act like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum, hurling pejoratives around like that is about as meaningful as a child screaming "I hate you!" at his parents after being disciplined for doing something wrong.

Grow up. The fact that CCP has given away anything for free, anything at all, is ******* mindblowing, and you wanna sit there and whine about it? Get the **** out of here. Seriously, put your money where your mouth is, unsubscribe, biomass, and get the **** out of here. No one is going to miss you and your one little paid account.


rage much?

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
Hazardous Company
#13 - 2016-11-20 10:03:38 UTC
7Genius wrote:
CCP fanbois out in full force.



Present!

So stop paying for EvE and have fun in your alpha clone. Contract your shinies to me at www.ccpfanboi.com.

Thanks in advance
Keno Skir
#14 - 2016-11-20 10:05:36 UTC
7Genius wrote:
As a paying customer for this game I think it is pretty disparaging that we can't have one Omega and one Alpha clone (an alt account) logged in simultaneously.

I figure since I am now one of the people supporting this game and have been for 9 years, I was very disappointed to learn that I can not have an alpha clone logged in at the same time as my Omega. Maybe you don't appreciate your paid customers support, maybe this hasn't come up as an issue for you yet but it's not exactly fair for those of us who pay for the game to not have access to at least on Alpha clone.

As far as I see it if I am paying for an Omega account I should still be able to access at least one Alpha, can you please respond to the community of paying players on this.


Every subbed player would have a gimped little alt in a Gnosis following him around, literally every subbed player. That would be a bad change and as such isn't allowed. I'm sure you understand how giving every subbed player a free alt was not the point of this F2P trial thing.
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#15 - 2016-11-20 10:08:22 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
7Genius wrote:
Fatima Foont wrote:
Yeah since you have been playing 9 years you know that trial accounts can't play with subs. F2P is a trial.



That is not the way it is being advertised to new players. Everything I have read is "EVE is free"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q here is the trailer

I guess that is just not the case for people who actually pay for the game.


Show me one thing you've read that claims "EVE is free" without any caveats. The limits you're complaining about have been known since this was announced. Just because you pay for an Omega account, that doesn't entitle you to run any number of free accounts on the side simultaneously. Do you have any idea how quickly and easily such a feature would be exploited to mess up the balance of the game? There's a damn good reason why you have to pay to have multiple accounts online at a time.

You call people 'fanbois' as if anyone that disagrees with you or is against you on this is one. Which is how I know you're hurling it around as a pejorative, and don't actually understand the meaning of the word, but I'll let you in on a little secret: fanboi is not synonymous with wrong, and as long as you continue to act like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum, hurling pejoratives around like that is about as meaningful as a child screaming "I hate you!" at his parents after being disciplined for doing something wrong.

Grow up. The fact that CCP has given away anything for free, anything at all, is ******* mindblowing, and you wanna sit there and whine about it? Get the **** out of here. Seriously, put your money where your mouth is, unsubscribe, biomass, and get the **** out of here. No one is going to miss you and your one little paid account.


rage much?


I'm sorry, was there a point of any merit you were trying to make, some kind of refutation maybe, in your snide little cookie-cutter attempt at trolling?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#16 - 2016-11-20 12:57:23 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:

Every subbed player would have a gimped little alt in a Gnosis following him around, literally every subbed player. That would be a bad change and as such isn't allowed. I'm sure you understand how giving every subbed player a free alt was not the point of this F2P trial thing.


While I can see the negatives of making an alt essential for normal gameplay - on the other hand a game like eve thrives when there are a lot of characters logged in and active whether that is 2 real players or 1 real player with 2 characters - some kind of happy medium wouldn't be a bad thing.
Keno Skir
#17 - 2016-11-20 13:07:19 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:

Every subbed player would have a gimped little alt in a Gnosis following him around, literally every subbed player. That would be a bad change and as such isn't allowed. I'm sure you understand how giving every subbed player a free alt was not the point of this F2P trial thing.


While I can see the negatives of making an alt essential for normal gameplay - on the other hand a game like eve thrives when there are a lot of characters logged in and active whether that is 2 real players or 1 real player with 2 characters - some kind of happy medium wouldn't be a bad thing.


There already is a happy medium. Currently people who want an alt logged in at the same time as them have to pay for it, preventing it from becoming "too" out of hand. A free alt for every player doubles (minimum) the number of accounts logged in, doubling server load and halving resource abundance in return for exactly 0 increase in investment in the game and CCP.

You see Alpha clones are good because while free, a few of them have the potential to become paying subscribers which offsets the potential extra server load of letting them all test the game out.

Giving a free alpha clone to every subbed player too just crowds the servers for next to no potential profit.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#18 - 2016-11-20 16:06:31 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
It was also impossible before this change, to have a trial account and a subscribed account logged in together.

Why is it such an issue all of a sudden?

I used to have no issues with logging in on a trial account while a subbed account was online. The other way round didn't work though.

Remove standings and insurance.

Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt
Initiative Associates
#19 - 2016-11-20 16:09:25 UTC
7Genius wrote:

As far as I see it if I am paying for an Omega account I should still be able to access at least one Alpha, can you please respond to the community of paying players on this.


I've never seen so much entitlement in one sentence.

You get what you pay for
Keno Skir
#20 - 2016-11-20 16:31:15 UTC
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:
7Genius wrote:

As far as I see it if I am paying for an Omega account I should still be able to access at least one Alpha, can you please respond to the community of paying players on this.


I've never seen so much entitlement in one sentence.

You get what you pay for


Totes Cool

Feel like the "community of paying players" are most likely just laughing at such entitled whining.
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