Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They do get bonuses dumpass.

Simply removing it, while effective, probably isn't the best solution. CCP has developed a disturbing track record of simply removing a feature they see as a problem rather than modifying it to a point of balance. For example, there were several clever ideas for how to change medical clone mechanics to maintain the penalty of death while removing the more punishing aspects of it, but instead the feature was simply removed and called a success.

Instead of just outright removing fighter assist, why not make it so that:

A) Fighters/FBs cannot be assigned if the carrier/SC is within some distance of a forcefield (EDIT: or a stargate). 100km or something.

B) Should a carrier/SC come within that distance, all assigned fighers/FBs return to and orbit their mothership automatically.

C) All assigned drones of any type (lights to FBs) lose all bonuses from their parent ship and parent ship's pilot. So no hull bonuses from the ship, no skill bonuses from the pilot, no item bonuses from modules/rigs/etc. They would never be better than their base stats while assigned.


Lastly, I hear rumors that you're thinking of removing fighter/FB warp. Carriers/SCs are broken strong and need a rebalance, but fighter/FB warp is not one of the things that are broken. Please don't remove one of the defining features of carriers and super carriers. Whenever a hear a newbro hearing about fighter/FB ability to warp they're always like "Woah, that is ******* cool!"

The whole problem started when DDAs and omnis started working on fighters ...and of course, the supercarrier bonuses to fighters that make them do ~7k DPS.

My solution: Make the fighters inherit the bonuses of the assigned ship instead of the carrier *or* nerf DDAs/Omnis so the bonuses only apply to drones on the same grid.

CCP Rise and CCP Fozzie are part of the game design team and are not programmers. The Fighter Assist code has likely not been touched in over 10 years when it was put out in the Red Moon Rising expansion in 2006. There are several bugs in the fighter assist code and since CCP has a problem with applying/deapplying skills/bonuses from other grids in the past (See OGB) and the Brain-In-A-Box project, it would probably take incredible amount of time from the development team to get these bugs fixed. At which point, fighter assist will go back to being a marginalized and rarely used mechanic, of which CCP would have now spent hundreds of development hours on.

Somethings in eve are just no sense.

Why remove the assist mecanic?

Risk x Reward not good enough?

But who says it have to be? A man in a tank have a huge advantage against a group of soldiers. I think eve have to be a more scientifical aproach. Make thinks possible like the real world. In same aspects this already happens, then why not expand?

I read some stuff about the tatical cruiser being overrated over bs, but anyone has remembered the T3 it's more expensive than a regular bs, then it's just enough to be better, i can fly a BS in a month, and need far more time to train a T3 to use.

Why i can't anchor a stationary sentry's, near a station or gate or even alone in space?
Why i can't stop a warp in the middle way?
Why ships have to change angle to maneauver?
Why a ship can still cloacked without using it's own energy?
Why a ship can't hide yourself from the communication hub?
Why in the vast universe of eve, the ships have only the aproved design?

So many questions.
I know, i know, the answer to all my questions is game balance, but it is confuse, in one hand CCP want to give freedom to EvE universe, in other, whe don't have really freedom.

Finnaly.

Answering the main question.

I Against the assist nerf. If you want guys make it be necessary to use bandwith from the assisted ship, but atention, if i use my drones to defend a ship that it's not the case, but if i delegate drones, its just enought to have used the bandwith.
Remember the fighter in the game lore, have a pilot inside, it's like a frig, than its just enought to have far more freedom.

That's the purpose of "Attack and Follow".

lol I think that is the perfect example for showing how goddamn broken fighters are...

Not just assigning either, but their EHP, their tracking, their DPS, the fact they warp instantly, and of course, the ZERO goddamn risk which is something CCP has been talking about recently...

In terms of "creativity" you can go ahead and get creative with a non-broken game mechanic. mmmmK?

NERF FIGHTERS YES

None of those 'bugs' matter is fighters can't hit anything smaller than a Dread. And that's the whole point.

Removing fighter delegation because of drone mods/bonuses being applied to fighters (that can then be delegated) is overpowered is exactly like saying "you robbed a bank and used a car for the get away, I'm going to let you keep the money and go free and arrest the guy who sold you the car!".-Signed, CCP Police Department.

removing the warp ability is killing the last non dead caps ... bad idea


does ccp buy all the useless carriers?
can the carrier pilotes have their skillpoints back?

And where did I say they didn't?

Like i said, you don't understand what was posted but decided to jump in and say something stupid anyways. That's a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.