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Please Help Me Understand the Goonfolk

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Stone Roses
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2013-05-30 14:41:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Stone Roses
Kamden Line wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:


Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' "


Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me!

But yeah, stop badposting.


It must be hard to be so irrelevant that you have to post to G-D to get someone to acknowledge you. To the rest of Nulsec, Providence and CVA are something of a running joke, ignored largely because Providence is literally the worst region in the game, outstripping even Syndicate for lack of good moons, good PVPers, and worst of all, good posters.

Indeed, Providence truly is the only place in the game aside from high sec where I can follow around a fleet with a neutral alt and not get blown up.


Considering the comedy alliance you are in, how did you post that with a straight face?

Show us on the dolly where the bad provi-blob touched you.

Please feel free to bring a fleet to Ziriert anytime, so we can tear you a new one all over again.
Danni stark
#82 - 2013-05-30 15:00:46 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
love them or hate them. they create content. every one likes content.


You missed out the word, 'did'

The Goon planned and executed Ice Interdiction, was the single best player created event in my time in Eve. It was original, fun and had a purpose which affected the Eve universe.

Burn Jita was just an attention seeking exercise in futility, with no real effect on the Eve universe. Just lots of folk sacrificing their ships to Concord.

To repeat Burn Jita is evidence that the folk in the goons who can and did come up with great gameplay seem to have run out of ideas.

Shame really.


so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?

doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#83 - 2013-05-30 15:47:01 UTC
So much teen angst it's palpable.


The main reason I hate goons, to make goon tears. It's super easy, just make fun of goons and harvest tears.

And tipiea or whatever, I dont hate complexity, but why would I read propaganda. It would be like reading how great North Korea is if North Korea had its own publication.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Prince Kobol
#84 - 2013-05-30 15:51:26 UTC
Typical Goon You know its true
Mulani Askiras
Doomheim
#85 - 2013-05-30 15:52:32 UTC
Danni stark wrote:

so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?

doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.


Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context.
Danni stark
#86 - 2013-05-30 16:02:47 UTC
Mulani Askiras wrote:
Danni stark wrote:

so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?

doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.


Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context.


we're talking about player made content, so no, ship spinning isn't content in this context.
Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-05-30 16:58:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Untanas Volmyr
My first experience with the goons was in Age of Conan. Goonheim. Those bastards would gather oars, shovels, rakes, and your buddies severed arm and beat u with it. And there would be swarms of them! Buggers are like army ants. The tactics they use are rather hideously evil. gg

Murphy's Technology Law - If your not thoroughly confused. Then you were not thoroughly informed.

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#88 - 2013-05-30 17:18:39 UTC
D.J. What are you doing to the euro goons?! /0\

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#89 - 2013-05-30 17:33:34 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
You sound like a Goon alt trying to obscure their history. Well played yourself.

However, they are astonishingly poor winners who pay $10 to belong to the "winning" team. Their main tactic is to make other players so miserable that they leave the game. Their "leader" advocated driving other players to suicide. google Mittani art of war for more on that philosophy.

Something Awful forums is a business model that has made 1.5 million + dollars on subscriptions and has a substantial add revenue due to its subscribers. Whether or not some of this money is used to help the Goons along is impossible to ascertain. However what is undeniable is that someone has a very nice life because of Goon success.

It is this probable smashentment of RL money and influence with a game that makes people despise them. Its like the obnoxious guy who buys cheat codes and then brags about how he kicks ass.


Like eve goons or not, this is a really ignorant post. The mean website thing you are describing just sounds like a successful business to me, not something to become enraged over?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Top Belt for Fun
#90 - 2013-05-30 18:47:07 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
However, they are astonishingly poor winners who pay $10 to belong to the "winning" team.


Correction: we pay $10 for the privilege of posting on a half way decent forum with other raging libera^w^w intelligent individuals.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Mulani Askiras
Doomheim
#91 - 2013-05-30 19:29:11 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Mulani Askiras wrote:
Danni stark wrote:

so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?

doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.


Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context.


we're talking about player made content, so no, ship spinning isn't content in this context.


So you're saying a player spinning themselves in a station isn't content? The logic here is strong.
Danni stark
#92 - 2013-05-30 19:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Danni stark
Mulani Askiras wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
Mulani Askiras wrote:
Danni stark wrote:

so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?

doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.


Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context.


we're talking about player made content, so no, ship spinning isn't content in this context.


So you're saying a player spinning themselves in a station isn't content? The logic here is strong.


no, that's not what i'm saying. read what i wrote.

even if i was; it doesn't matter because it has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2013-05-30 19:59:34 UTC
Don't feel bad, OP, SA folks vary greatly enough for me to say it really depends on with whom you hang out. I know one SA dude from SL (yes, W-HAT before it went under) and he's pretty good guy. Then I've known some other SA folks from Age of Conan who weren't worth my time so I just ignored them (although, tbh they weren't as annoying as those Murder Cow jerkwads). All in all, Goons here are just as much of a mix in my experience, so you get the good and the bad. Or I as like to call them: an assorted mix of fruits and nuts. :)
Amelia Ryan
CONCORD Operations
#94 - 2013-05-30 21:58:24 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
CCP created a game where it is possible to lie, cheat, scam, and generally be a jerk.

Some players get tremendously angry at the idea that some other players may actually take advantage of these possibilities.


This, seriously.

CCP creates EVE with close to no rules and nobody panics, because it's all part of the plan.

People mention goons and everybody loses their minds.
Malak Dawnfire
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#95 - 2013-05-30 22:13:08 UTC
Goonswarm is an incredibly well organized and sophisticated secret society that isn't really that secret.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-05-30 23:08:09 UTC
I'm literally an avatar of pent up aggression who is about to snap at any minute because of how I behave in a video game.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#97 - 2013-05-30 23:37:29 UTC
Initially I hated goons because their stated goal was to ruin Eve and ideally force the game to close down. Somewhere along the line, I think goons fell in love with Eve. So now I just hate them out of habit.

No good deed goes unpunished

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#98 - 2013-05-30 23:38:09 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
And tipiea or whatever, I dont hate complexity, but why would I read propaganda. It would be like reading how great North Korea is if North Korea had its own publication.


Because dismissing everything from a particular source because of their choice of name for the site could limit getting EVE information?
Because neither article was written by a member of Goonswarm and in particular the piece "The Big Lie" should be, imho, required reading from Aura?
For the Emperor?
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#99 - 2013-05-31 03:30:58 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
I'm literally an avatar of pent up aggression who is about to snap at any minute because of how I behave in a video game.


D:

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Mark Androcius
#100 - 2013-05-31 07:39:55 UTC
You have assets in this game, you will have to protect those assets.
The more assets you have, the more you have to protect them.

Goons have many assets, goons therefore have to protect a lot.
You may think they are just a bunch of @#%^(&@&, but actually, even something like Burn Jita or Hulkageddon, is a way for the Goons to protect their income.


Although there are many many more reasons, i shall just state one reason for Hulkageddon.
Hulkageddon is meant to gank miners in High-sec space.
What do people mine in high-sec space? indeed, lower value ores.
So, what happens when you gank the group of people, mining the lower value ores? Exactly, the value of those ores goes up.

I don't know if you know, but in null-sec, those lower value ores aren't very abundant and besides this, industrialists usually don't feel like mining them ( Arkonor makes a lot more iskies after-all ).

If the value of a particular ore goes up, so does the likelihood of people mining them.


This is just a small example, but ultimately, they are protecting their assets and their position.
Anybody else would do the exact same thing, Goons are just more successful than anybody else.