EVE General Discussion

From fanfest, the idea was you would buy stuff face to face establishments, stuff that was illegal and could only be sold there, "off the grid". Other players would take the place of the customs NPCs you see at stargates. They would scan your ship, and if it had illegal items in it they would get rights to shot you or set you to shoot-on-sight by anyone and everyone unless you paid a ransom.. I mean a fine, yes a fine.

It was Incarna content that tied to flying in space PvP content. And now we have to wait for it.

Honestly, I think the whole concept of incarna was wrong. CCP repeatedly stated that there would be no combat involved like FPS-style killing sprees.
Considering that the majority of eve players go great lenghts just to blow stuff up and watch shiny ships go boom I find it hard to believe that any of them would find a "pacifistic" environment for their avatars enjoyable.
If CCP wants the players to accept WiS, it will not work without combat.

Wait a minute, wernt th ecrying threads about how Incarna wasnt wanted and that rebalancing spaceships and doing all stuff liek thats was what should really be done? And now it looks like it might be, the same people are going to whine about how Incarna isnt coming out fast enough? Whoda thunk...

I bolded the wrong part.

Eventually... that partially adresses my 2 main issues with Incarna:

Issue #1: Too few time to deliver it in the schedule suggested. I always thought of the "real" Incarna as a 2012 feature at best. Sure your team could deliver something this winter, CCP Solomon, but NOT the real stuff, rather yet another half cooked, poorly optimized feature. And probably with a severe case of my...

Issue #2: What can Incarna do for my game experience? Smuggle boosters? I never touched a booster with a ten feet pole. Boosters are not a part of my gameplay. What do I want from Incarna? First of all, I want NPCs. Because my life in New Eden is spent in stations where I barely can see 8 other guys docked at once and playing all roles of the play because of being alone in a big empty station doesn't suits my taste. What else? I want some 20th century technology. I want a holo-chat to speak with people in the other corner of the universe & interact with their virtual personae, rather than a silly text box in the lower left corner of my screen. More things? I want public spaces (theaters?) that can be rent/hired/whatever to hold public events: give awards, corporate meetings, employer of the month parties, whatever. Military parades by dust bunnies, beauty contests, roleplaying sessions, any events that the players can develop on their own to fill the void without a need to have a huge corporarion that owes the "establishment", just hire it, do your stuff, then leave. More? I want to have a gazillion emotes, i want to kiss, hug, slap, spit, hifive or just touch other players. I want to be able to dance a tango or waltz with a man i like (or a woman!) or do some line dancing or a jig or whatever... just some thoughts of the top of my head, but I guess you see the pattern...

I want that Incarna allows people to have fun by socializing rather than trying to kill each other.

And now you got TIME to work towards that.

So in other words, you are not going to launch half-finished, half-baked, bug riddled content?? And instead lauched polished content, when it is actually ready?

No complaints here.....

Which is an illusion created by current PVP shoutbox, because there are a lot of people enjoying other parts of EVE.
Like the ones constructing said shiny space ships or the ones mining the stuff to build shiny space ships or those who like to explore more than to shoot spaceships and the glorious CSM did nothing/not much for them.

I do like the open PVP approach EVE takes, but blowing up spaceships sincerly is not all.

A few years ago there were many initiatives around EVE that were quite good and player organized events.
Lately the talk has been all around pew-pew. If I want pew-pew ONLY I play Lost4Dead or one of the other shooters I have installed.

EVE used to be an intelligent game that made you think out of the box.

Now go kiss some lower backs in 0-Sec, k?

Why so you can promise more stuff and then 'push it away' when you miss your deadlines?

Since 2006 you have been promising Ambulation as it was back then, then the last 2 fan fests you've been hyping about incarna.. you've told us that we would finally be given the keys to the station that we could interact in a avatar.. that we could leave the ship and start to explore the OTHER side of eve.. and that you would be giving us the tools to make what we wished of it...


Now your saying sorry summer expansion was a big aprils fools joke.. and once again we are not finishing and deliviering on what we have promsied.


And yes I know people are going to flame me for this but I was looking forward to Incarna in it's full not for what it is at the moment.. but for what it promised.. Making more of the EVE SANDBOX into an actual SANDBOX. I love my Space Ships, but I also love being able to escape from that reality and Incarna if it was anything like they had hyped on about at fanfest would have given you something akin to what Second Life has managed.. only with better content and better graphics.

People seem to think that because there is no 'actual' solid game play defined by CCP that sorry it's not a feature.. but that's the point, Eve is not meant to be 'this is how you play, this is what you do and that is that' Eve is meant to be a Sandbox, it's meant to be 'here are the tools, go and make the game play you want'... and Incarna had the hint of that finally TRUELY becoming something.. from being able to put tattoo's all over my Avatar's body, to making an establishment to finally maybe making all those worthless dancers I have useful etc..

It had the possiblity of opening up entire new Industrial area's for those who are Industrialists... manufacturing entire new sets of items for the AVATAR side of the game..

and yet instead we got NeX and now we get yet another dropped expansion.. half finished and from CCP's track record.. never to BE finished.

Thanks for lieing for the past several years CCP.. and for getting peoples hopes up at a fantastic feature only to again scrap it.

Just +1 who wrote it before you, after you read it 2 times it becomes irritating.

Well, that sucks. I guess Ill be back when you guys get serious about avatar gameplay. Ive only been waiting 3 years (or whatever). I'm going to go wait somewhere else. CCP please don't bring incarna up again until you mean it. This tease has gone on long enough. Screw this.