Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Oh, what a novel idea! Just one problem - my friends are from all around the world. Juuuust a little hitch in grouping up people when one is from Japan, another from the UK, one from Germany, one from the US and I'm sure you get the idea by now. Coughing up the dough for the fanfest tickets and flights isn't necessarily easy for all of us either. So, yeah, could do that, but it's a lot of work and isn't cheap.
A pretend-bar and pretend-beer in a pretend-world is probably the easiest way for everyone to meet.



"Look guys, I'm projecting!"
You're right, yet, you are also wrong. Yes, I do think avatar based interaction is a goal in itself. And yes, their old goals and visions would do just fine for a start. I'm not saying they shouldn't develop actual gameplay for WiS. I'm saying I don't want it to be just the same old s**t we get now - we'll even fit modules on our characters (err, power armor or something) for christ's sakes and then we'll pew pew in an abandoned warehouse somewhere for some construction and/or research materials. How very interesting. We certainly don't have enough of things to blow up, maim and kill in this game yet.

As I recall the original gameplay function idea for Incarna had something to do with smuggling - an area of the game that hasn't been looked at... Since launch I guess? There's this old teaser... I would love see them work on that idea, but apparently they're going forward with the ruin exploration-slash-conquering no matter what. Again, I'm not against it per se, but it just feels like a strange route to take after all these years. Most strange part to me is, can all the assets produced for this prototype be used in any way to create other non-space enviroments? I sure hope so, so that we don't have just a single jail cell (as someone put it) on our corporate headquarters but can freely roam around in dislocated miniature stations somewhere in deadspace where almost everything you meet is a hostile NPC with an offchance for a hostile player.

Remember the future vision trailer? I want to see that. I want to see that and live that so bad. But I guess I can live with whatever they are doing now, IF it means the future vision will some day be real.


P.S. Looking at your posts, you don't have to be a douche to prove your point. In fact that's kind offputting.

I loled, as that's the sad truth. "More of the same" gets ahead of "New!" and "Wis? LOLspacebarbiez" get what they don't asked for while WiS are told to wait and hope for the best.



Stop reading my thoughts, it's creepy!

Anwyay as I stated right above, no, the "common" development between dungeons and social spaces is an illusion. Both are massive development tasks and CCP barely is able to cope with one of them at once.

So if they succeed, we will be free to leave our cell so we can get stabbed at the showers... in a "meaningful" way.

1) How do you interact with these global friends of yours today? Facebook, email, in-game chat channels, voice comms, forums?

2) How does the ability to sit in a pretend-bar with them enhance this interaction in any way whatsoever? Simply because you can duplicate your existing Facebook, chat channels, voice comms or forums but with your character model pasted into the screen?


I've posted elsewhere that WiS doesn't need to be particularly combat focused - we're pilots, not space marines - and that it would be far more interesting to take the capsuleer completely out of their 1600mm rolled tungsten comfort zone and have them interact with the Eve universe at a whole new level, having to think and hack and avoid foot patrols to explore abandoned stations rather than storming the barricades with a plasma rifle and casually gunning down every NPC in sight like we do in space combat. An aspect of Eve which turned the existing status quo on its head, where the lowliest Serpentis militiaman or rogue drone was a genuine threat, and where opening fire on hostiles mostly served to sound the alarm and blow your cover. The Eve universe is getting DUST for its all-guns-blazing foot combat, we really don't need to re-invent the wheel.


The earlier versions of WiS gameplay fell victim to the senior management pipedream of making the playerbase pay for eve twice via NeX store trinkets so they could buy their $1000 jeans. I hope they're revived, and black market smuggling is one of the old WiS ideas I can get behind, no problem. WiS shouldn't just be about one type of gameplay (be that smuggling, ruin exploration, or whatever), though, any more than lowsec is just about factional warfare or highsec is just about mining.


Believe me, I'm biting my tongue in a lot of these posts to keep things mostly constructive. That doesn't mean I'm not going to call a terrible idea a terrible idea.

It's all in the execution. Done poorly, you're right. Done well, it's the only option that immerses you in the game. It comes down to whether they just paste your character model into the screen or bring in enough control and customization that your character looks, acts and sounds like your character (as opposed to, say, Gallente Male Option #3).

It will be hard to do right, but if they pull it off it will be amazing for those who value immersion. For those who don't, the (mostly external) options will work as well as they ever did. At the very highest levels of EVE, the plots and the planning and the negotiation all occur entirely outside the game itself. Why not provide some compelling options for bringing that content into the game?



They also bungled the hell out of the execution. Most of that was admittedly before my time, but I've seen the pug-faced avatars, and I arrived just in time to experience the last days of the CPU-melting slideshow of Minmatar-only CQs. I've seen the videos showing off all these cool concepts that have never been delivered on.

That's why it's more important that CCP underpromises and overdelivers on whatever Incarna content they decide to ship. Exploration content is not my greatest interest, but if they knock it out of the park they will give the players a lot more reason to hope that they can deliver on the rest of their promises.

you are repeating yourself
you must be an forum bot with only one thing programmed into it

its driving me crazy people have bots everywhere
there are mining and mission bots ,now we automatic answering machines on these forums

indeed a goonbot keep on bashing the NEXfail
this 23 page thread is about WIS and trying to derail with very expensive Jeans ,won,t change it.

but i can put you on the right thread for it so you can vent you frustrations about the NEXcrap.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121776&find=unread

don,t thank me for it , i am glad i could help somebody to the right thread

"This is the thread about WiS development why are you talking about the features that drove WiS development"

You might not like the fact that WiS was hijacked to act as a vehicle for NeX sales and CCP now have to work on untangling the mess that resulted, and you may wish to turn a blind eye to the fact that a few loudmouthed WiS for WiS's sake advocates are trying to deflect CCP right back down that dead-end, but that doesn't change the facts.

I notice you've stopped trying to argue your case and are now blubbering incoherently about how you just knew I was going to say whatever it is I just said.

I'm happy to drop the discussion of NeX, I can see it makes you upset.

i am so hopping that ccp places items in the Nex store that does not have to deal with WIS, Like Ship skins

when (If) WIS does go for the Spy Vs Spy Dungeon Crawl. I hope the social room mechanic will also be released at the same time.
you tube of the game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu2e866bEcM&feature=related