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CCP where's the Wormhole NERFS WHY ARE THEY GETTING OFF SCOT FREE?? BURN EVE RYONE equally

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Rahmiro
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#361 - 2012-06-04 17:06:48 UTC
Why ask for a nerf? Just cometh to the fountain of isk that is wormholes. There are plenty of empty C5's and C6's for you and yours to exploit! Drink, drink from the fountain! No one lurks. No ones sees as you quench your thirst and fill you belly.

WH corps welcome you.

I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#362 - 2012-06-04 17:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
There is one thing that needs to be nerfed if all these others go into effect.. AFK Cloaking. Not sure about Wormholes tho.


Here we go again....Roll AFK cloaking has never been a problem; they are no threat. The active cloakers are the ones you need to worry about.. but you can't get away with a nerf demand for active play so you demonize the mechanic claimiing that AFK cloaking is out of control and they are harming you. Anyone see a pattern?

"miners are all bots.. so lets nerf them and kill them with wild abandon." "Gee that worked so well lets try it with cloaking."

Remove the cloaked from local unless they chat.. no one should know there are cloakers AFK or otherwise using free local intel. AFK problem solved.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#363 - 2012-06-04 19:01:53 UTC
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.

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Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#364 - 2012-06-04 19:07:29 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.


You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#365 - 2012-06-08 06:37:37 UTC
Tasiv Deka wrote:
BoBoZoBo wrote:
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.


You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate


lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Disregard That
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#366 - 2012-06-08 06:44:58 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Tasiv Deka wrote:
BoBoZoBo wrote:
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.


You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate


lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard

3000 star systems without water ice floating in any belts, anywhere?

Yeah, that's reasonable. Roll
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#367 - 2012-06-08 06:46:30 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
1. they are not a faucet, because they do not bring in more isk as a number they simply use what is already floating around.

.



bull crap SLEEPER BLUE LOOT is a ISK faucet pure & simple because it injects ISK into Eve through NPC buy orders!


But... CCP must know what the isk sink v isk faucet ratio is for WH. I mean ships destroyed, POS's abandoned, etc.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#368 - 2012-06-08 06:47:15 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.

Hmm, I think wh space being more dangerous is questionable. Sure, in null you may lose a few less ships if you are careful, but as a small corp inside a month you'll have had your POS torn down and you'll probably have attracted at least one person like me. Who will leave an alt in your home system 24/7, preventing your members from PvEing indefinitely.

Also, Darth, I admire your fanaticism but I worry for your mental stability.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#369 - 2012-06-08 06:50:51 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
1. they are not a faucet, because they do not bring in more isk as a number they simply use what is already floating around.

.



bull crap SLEEPER BLUE LOOT is a ISK faucet pure & simple because it injects ISK into Eve through NPC buy orders!


But... CCP must know what the isk sink v isk faucet ratio is for WH. I mean ships destroyed, POS's abandoned, etc.


The ISK faucet right now I bet 100 million ISK is 3X greater then Incursions with blue loot after the Escalation NERF. The Materials puping out of WH's must be huge in the orm o PI & nano ribbons.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#370 - 2012-06-08 07:01:15 UTC
ABLOOBLOO

I think CCP should nerf incursions again just so we can have more threads like these.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#371 - 2012-06-08 07:03:48 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Tasiv Deka wrote:
BoBoZoBo wrote:
HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?

the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company.

Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal.


You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate


lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard


hah no i still love coming out to low and null to wreak havoc... plus gotta sell and buy other stuff

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.

Stalafur
State War Academy
Caldari State
#372 - 2012-06-08 07:09:19 UTC
Nooo, not the wormhole! They try to burns the precious! *Scuttles into his wormhole hermit pos*
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#373 - 2012-06-08 07:28:20 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
ABLOOBLOO

I think CCP should nerf incursions again just so we can have more threads like these.

that'd be too harsh. they should just leave it as it is now since all the isk farmers, whiny carebears are gone.

what left is a real community run it for fun and socialization
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#374 - 2012-06-08 07:52:30 UTC
Don't **** with my Wormhole.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

catinboots
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#375 - 2012-06-08 08:00:10 UTC  |  Edited by: catinboots
DarthNefarius wrote:
Incursions getting nerfed & drone alloys getting nerfed why are the blue loot NPC buy orders not getting nerfed to to help with the inflation?!?! The Pax Amarrian nerf was a good precendent of a NPC sell order which was balanced next the sleeper blue loot NPC buy order should be cut in the name of balance. A possible bounty 10% cut is being thrown around too by CCP Soundwave. Only one currenntly smelling like a rose is the Wormhole residents with the Escalation to Inferno. Lets have the current inflation mean the end fo Empire NPC's no longer being able to affford to buy sleeper crap (NPC buy orders) which is non ribbons (blue loot) which acually adds something to Eve & empire ( at least with Incursions Capsuleers are providing a service to Empire residents what has blueloot added to Empire's security? ) . LETS HAVE EVERYONE FEEL THE PAIN OF ESCALATING INFERNO[:!: A pox on EVERYONE'S house

are you suggesting WH dellers are having a easy time ?
Pardon me but you need to join a Dedicated WH corp , because honestly i think you have no clue what so ever what you are talking about

So this is permanence

Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#376 - 2012-06-08 08:06:43 UTC
So... Do you Spam D-scan when you run incursions? I did not think so.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Stalafur
State War Academy
Caldari State
#377 - 2012-06-08 08:41:47 UTC
Wormholes are practically twice as hard, you have to deal with rats that switch targets, Drain cap, warp scram and you have to scan down sites to even warp to them. There is no local, no one is daft enough to speak in local. It is a element of surprise but extremely sucks if three bombs uncloak and bomb your men. D-Scan? no feasible on cloakers. Pirate

So I can safely say that Wormhole is pretty hard and twice the risk but the rewards are plentiful.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#378 - 2012-06-08 10:08:41 UTC
Stalafur wrote:
Wormholes are practically twice as hard, you have to deal with rats that switch targets, Drain cap, warp scram and you have to scan down sites to even warp to them. There is no local, no one is daft enough to speak in local. It is a element of surprise but extremely sucks if three bombs uncloak and bomb your men. D-Scan? no feasible on cloakers. Pirate

So I can safely say that Wormhole is pretty hard and twice the risk but the rewards are plentiful.

Am I the only one that chats in local in WHs?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#379 - 2012-06-08 10:33:04 UTC
So much delicious butthurt, decorated with tasty tears.

Sorry, but the risk/reward ratio in vanguard incursions was completely broken. Now it has been repaired and you will just have to deal with it.

Getting out of highsec might be a good start.
aoe dps
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#380 - 2012-06-08 10:36:37 UTC
nothing makes me happier than to see a 15+ page troll thread :D
common guys, this was all bull troll's billy goat gruff from page one!

i am a posting alt. "He doesn't believe in taking into consideration any facts that might detract from his argument"