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CSM 7 - We Should Not Accept This Behavior!!

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#601 - 2012-04-12 19:54:02 UTC
Mugged Yougot wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Look, Mittani's player probably isn't actually a borderline sociopath. He had a job as a legal clerk or something so he must be able to work in an office in some manner. But what Mittani's player is responsible for to some degree is the actions of his alliance of thousands which almost certainly includes any number of borderline sociopaths who have in the past proved quite capable of significant rl abuse, harrassment, bullying, criminality and general nutcase behaviour on the internet. The "great leader" of goonswarm says "harrass this guy to suicide" and a whole bunch of under-socialized basement kids drunk on malicious bullying and edgy troll fever are going to start looking for ways to make the target commit "suicide" for real.
Care to provide proof of you claims? And even it's true, you can not blame and individual's real life actions on his digital corporation-founder.

Constantine wrote:
We've seen the extents that goonswarm will go. We've had the reports of them spamming rl female players with obscene material to personal and workplace addresses. We've seen them make signatures to mock the bereaved father of a road-accident victim. We've seen utterly horrendous examples of harrassment and stalking from these guys. So the leader cannot just wipe his hands and claim he has no responsibility.
If this is true, then I will rest my case. Please provide proof.


Research smoske, lady scarlet, lead back over these threads in jita park and go take a look at the assembly hall topic calling for future anonimity of csm candidates to protect them from rl harrassment.

Currently the goon wiki has my rl picture alongside the accusation I'm a child sex abuser.

Not sure how much more "evidence" you need of these things really.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Mugged Yougot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#602 - 2012-04-12 20:03:48 UTC
Wow.. I didn't know it was that bad.. Yeah, Mittani should keep his members in line, at least to a certain degree.
VCBee 180
State War Academy
Caldari State
#603 - 2012-04-12 20:25:32 UTC
why are all the RvB posters gigantic babies? i thought you guys were based on the concept of constant fighting or something
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#604 - 2012-04-12 20:51:27 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
why are all the RvB posters gigantic babies? i thought you guys were based on the concept of constant fighting or something


Maybe they can differentiate a game from real life attacks.

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#605 - 2012-04-12 22:12:38 UTC
VCBee 180 wrote:
why are all the RvB posters gigantic babies? i thought you guys were based on the concept of constant fighting or something


Fighting in-game. With spaceships. IN A GAME.

You goonswarm people seem to think that harrassing people in real life is an appropriate way of playing a spaceship game and it really isn't.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Ayla Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#606 - 2012-04-12 23:53:23 UTC
Dead horse thread is dead. Though in retrospect, Mittani is the king of controversy as far as EvE goes, so he seems to have beaten all records for controversy ever set, holy **** guys, INCARNA didnt have as many players tied in a knot. Why don't you go shoot a statue or something, cause this stuff is getting tired. Fanfest is over, hell, Mittani is halfway through his ban, and youre still raging about it. Find some new controversy, please, cause this is the tear factory to end all tear factories.
Zmaster BloodLust
BloodLust Enterprises
Amarr Locals Alliance.
#607 - 2012-04-13 00:08:34 UTC
he made the mistake... he apologised...he steped down from the CSM... wht more do u ppl wnt??
just drop it already... we all know hes an *******... all happened, all was solved...

move on kidos!!

Regards, Z
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#608 - 2012-04-13 01:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Jade Constantine wrote:
Mugged Yougot wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Look, Mittani's player probably isn't actually a borderline sociopath. He had a job as a legal clerk or something so he must be able to work in an office in some manner. But what Mittani's player is responsible for to some degree is the actions of his alliance of thousands which almost certainly includes any number of borderline sociopaths who have in the past proved quite capable of significant rl abuse, harrassment, bullying, criminality and general nutcase behaviour on the internet. The "great leader" of goonswarm says "harrass this guy to suicide" and a whole bunch of under-socialized basement kids drunk on malicious bullying and edgy troll fever are going to start looking for ways to make the target commit "suicide" for real.
Care to provide proof of you claims? And even it's true, you can not blame and individual's real life actions on his digital corporation-founder.

Constantine wrote:
We've seen the extents that goonswarm will go. We've had the reports of them spamming rl female players with obscene material to personal and workplace addresses. We've seen them make signatures to mock the bereaved father of a road-accident victim. We've seen utterly horrendous examples of harrassment and stalking from these guys. So the leader cannot just wipe his hands and claim he has no responsibility.
If this is true, then I will rest my case. Please provide proof.


Research smoske, lady scarlet, lead back over these threads in jita park and go take a look at the assembly hall topic calling for future anonimity of csm candidates to protect them from rl harrassment.

Currently the goon wiki has my rl picture alongside the accusation I'm a child sex abuser.

Not sure how much more "evidence" you need of these things really.


Hey Jade, how does one get work as a virtual wh*re? (didn't know that word was censored) I know that you have lots of experience in this industry.

FWIW, your pic is really creepy.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#609 - 2012-04-13 01:50:14 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Hey Jade, how does one get work as a virtual wh*re? (didn't know that word was censored) I know that you have lots of experience in this industry.


Still carrying on the goonswarm party line eh? Keep smearing and it might cover up the embarrassing truths about your own behaviour.

Quote:
FWIW, your pic is really creepy.


I'm pretty sure I'm better looking then you are.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#610 - 2012-04-13 01:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Killer Gandry
Lapine Davion wrote:

how does one get work as a virtual wh*re?


Stick to scamming and stealing. I don't think you are social enough to make money in any other profession.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#611 - 2012-04-13 03:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Killer Gandry wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:

how does one get work as a virtual wh*re?


Stick to scamming and stealing. I don't think you are social enough to make money in any other profession.


I'm pretty good with words when I want to be. But I'm terrible at scamming.

And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel". Edit: Evidence of Space Brothel

What "embarrassing truths" about my own behavior?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#612 - 2012-04-13 03:29:06 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#613 - 2012-04-13 03:41:47 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool



It was a nasty, but still nicer game back then.

.

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#614 - 2012-04-13 03:46:33 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool



It was a nasty, but still nicer game back then.


Yes, it sure is a shame that times have changed, huh?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#615 - 2012-04-13 03:47:32 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool



It was a nasty, but still nicer game back then.


Well it was a brutal red in tooth and claw PVP game with lots of ingame intrigues and betrayals and backstabbing right enough - but it was a purer environment in many ways, with people not so inclined to take their greviences into the realm of ooc harrassment and rl bullying.

I think it is part of the goon agenda to "unwrite" the early history of the game and make believe eve didn't really start until they arrived - a common tactic for an extremist imperialist entity seeking dominance over a cultural medium.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#616 - 2012-04-13 04:46:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Jade Constantine wrote:
Revolution Rising wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool



It was a nasty, but still nicer game back then.


Well it was a brutal red in tooth and claw PVP game with lots of ingame intrigues and betrayals and backstabbing right enough - but it was a purer environment in many ways, with people not so inclined to take their greviences into the realm of ooc harrassment and rl bullying.

I think it is part of the goon agenda to "unwrite" the early history of the game and make believe eve didn't really start until they arrived - a common tactic for an extremist imperialist entity seeking dominance over a cultural medium.


Those sure were innocent times. Before the dirty Goons came and ruined your game with their intrigues and betrayals and backstabbing.

Jesus Christ, you sure do love using a whole lotta words, don't you? All I've said was that Goons came in and changed the game. You just seem mad because you "claimed" this game first.

Edit: Face it. Eve has more subscribers, more incredible stories, and more general interest because of what Goonswarm has brought to the game. I would sure be interested to see a poll about which stories it was that brought each player to the game.

Edit edit: And I'm not saying that all these people are pro-Goon, either. Plenty of people joined up because they heard about what the Goons were doing and wanted to fight them. All those people likely wouldn't be here if it weren't for them.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#617 - 2012-04-13 04:52:29 UTC
ITT, extremist imperialist entity = people playing a video game wanting to have fun

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#618 - 2012-04-13 05:16:40 UTC
space politics Lol

In pace requiescat

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#619 - 2012-04-13 05:26:59 UTC
Vetorept Fera wrote:
space politics Lol

fuckin space politics, man.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#620 - 2012-04-13 05:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".


You really haven't.

La maison was a nightclub, all the best pilots in new eden attended in the early years of eve. You know, the time before the goons turned up Cool



Ah, I read a bit more into La Maison. I think the reason that Goonswarm hates you so much is because of your connection to BoB. And you're still upset about that guy that died. You know, Goons had a guy who killed himself. He was well loved in the community, too. They still make fun of him.

Face it, the only way Goons would go away is if CCP killed the sandbox. So you would have to kill off the game you enjoy to get them to leave.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]