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CCP why you just make a rebalance on the ratting, people ratting alot so they wouldnt pay the suscription with real money.....and leave the miners alone.....

Who on the CSM give you this great idea may i know????? CCP Fozzie are you even reading this post??

seems like devs dont care about playerbase opinions anymore they just swing nerf hammer and let it happen

This is a horrible change - EU TZ players will just mine out everything so US TZ players won't be able to mine...

Best to shut down the servers. That will show the damn goons. They will not be able to recover from that.

PS: I see that censorship brigade is in full swing. Never not **** on your customers.

That'll just give US TZ players ****** picks of ore or no belt at all. At least atm US TZ can just reset a half mined anom for good ores, now it's just going to be post-cherry picked anoms or nothing.

So, I'm actually torn on these changes. On the one hand, this basically reads:

"Dear Goons, through incredible investment of time, money, and effort in your space and the coordination required to defend it you have become able to utilize the Rorqual at it's theoretical limit. We did not anticipate this in the design phase, and we waited until many many players were heavily invested before we took steps to fix it. In short, you will now be punished for being very good at being a nullsec alliance. Also, these changes will apparently break the risk/reward calculus for smaller organizations, so they get punished for Goons being good at Nullsec too."

On the other hand, I can absolutely see how Rorquals are gutting the minerals market in their current form. Given that mining is something people from all regions of the game engage in, that is also a huge problem.

But, Fozzie and the rest of the team, here is the central problem you aren't going to fix by nerfing the Rorq into the floor: The Imperium is going to keep using the crap out of these until you reduce their yield below that of a Mackinaw. I already have four characters at max skills, and I already bought the hulls and drones. Until it's crappier than a barge the Rorq will continue to represent the best isk/hour I can earn while folding my laundry. Meanwhile you will render the hull worthless to players in alliances less able to secure their space.

So I get that you are between a rock and a hard place here. Make the Rorq a doorstop again and save the minerals market. Keep the Rorq as the king of mining and watch Goons bury ever poor new player trying to mine with his Venture in highsec.

However, that is assuming that the only variable that can change is Rorqual yield. I know there are lots of other project and priorities, but might it be worth taking a look at mining in a broader scope? Mining is awful as gameplay, especially in highsec. It might make more sense to remove the direct competition between null and high for lowends, and instead make something unique, valuable, and maybe a bit rare spawn there to give something worthwhile to mine.

Think of it like this. Right now everyone mines the same basic ores, weather they have shovels or massive industrial equipment. So we got better industrial equipment and now the guys with shovels are getting crushed. Would it make sense to give the smaller miners occasional targets that are valuable in smaller amounts but require effort to find? That would diversify mining into two different professions, one for massive industrial harvesting through group cohesion and the other much more like a prospector roaming in search of a gold strike. That could be MUCH more interesting for a new player or alpha clone.

That's what you get for being a 3rd world nation.

I think United tried that approach as well.

6 months ago CCP gave us a badass mining ships( and very nice drones but bit expensive) who could defend himself and had a proportional isk/h like a capital ratting.
6 moths ago CCP forgot this is EVE

Now they push nerf after nerf down our throats and make a very expensive ship with drones as expensive as a dreadnought hull almost not worth using it


and respawn timers on ore belts : I believe that CCP does not really know what they are doing at industry level in their own game

Methinks much coffee was spat out in an eruption of steamy shock and profound panic.

I have been on the mining fleets, the only bottleneck we had was the fact that most rorqual pilots were too lazy to boost mercoxit minners, so the sites would sit almost empty with 2-4 nodes of the only ore that rorquals cannot mine. Now the bottleneck will be time.

Now if goons can just find a way to benefit from how broken NPC ECM is, that will also get "fixed".