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the issue of our trouble is:
we with folks, and like a lot of the other people do (i think). are using buttons 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 for the high slot moduls (or would like to use for the mid slot moduls, if F1 F2 F3 F4 etc. for high) and now we havesignificant troubles with the game, because when im starting push this buttons my scanner is flashing like a Christmass tree!
its bad
we have the same trouble in past, before the patch, but it could be evaded by not emitting the scanner window by the mause. we could make a click on the space, on the chat, on the overview, and continuing using 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 buttons and they didnt affect on the scanner filters, but now
its flashing like a christmass tree
we cant handle it pls hAlp

the trouble is that this filter-shortcuts cant be changed in settings, and now has got the priority of the key-using

Why does the tooltip in the probe scammer not display the name of the scan result any more like the old scanning system does? The info in that tooltip is kinda useless without the name of the scanned down site in it.

#1 - 2017-03-15 19:57:34 UTC |
hi.
since update i have the weirdest problem with the new probe window.
when i launch probes and start to scan, after i move the spheres to reposition them. i get something like a " copy" of the old position, means i have 16 spheres in space then..this keeps going on every time i move the spheres. it is super annoying cause if u are close enough to something scanning like 1 au, and u only want to move the probes a little bit, u see everything twice, like being super drunk....
this keeps on stacking infinite, i can spam the complete probing space window with copies of the 8 spheres....it is super annoying.

also everytime i open probe window ( same with dscan window) the probe window is attached to the scanning( space) window, and i have to undock it from each other, to close the space window to just have the probe window open to see new sigs pop up in space while doing my thing.

also even i have unchecked anomalies they show up in probe window, so i have to re-check and uncheck them again to make them disappear.everytime .ccplease -.-


PS: the range slider is annoying too. before i could drag the sphere size by leftclicking and dragging the sphere now i have to use alt+mouse wheel or use the slide...dont like it a bit.
its driving me nuts. if i was actually exploring i would have beat my monitor with my fists already.


and yes i already purged cache and stuff....

The Scanner things that suck:

• D-Scan sound is godawful, needs checkbox to disable. WE HIT THIS EVERY FIVE SECONDS.
• Probe "Warping" sound cribbed from Star Trek is godawful (and I like Star Trek). Needs checkbox to disable.
• Probe "Distance"/"Move Center"/"Relocate Probe" sound *woooOOOOOooooo* needs to die in a fire. No checkbox, kill it.
• Map ambient sound is godawful, needs checkbox to disable.
• Swooping, swooshing sounds when probing is godawful, needs checkbox to disable.
• Map too bright.
• Vertical lines on map too bright, obnoxious, obscure information.
• Sun massively bright for no reason.
• Range up/down needs to match "invert zoom" settings.
• Probe bubble and D-scan bubble too bright, signature sphere too dim
• Buttons need to go back to previous location.
• Docking in the map wastes a huge chunk of screen space below Scanner window unless BOTH scanners are docked.
• Ability to select one signal and have others disappear removed/broken, resulting in extraneous input to replicate. Roll back.
• Automatically docking the scanner windows in the map REQUIRES you to un-dock to put them back where you had them.
• Showing "No Probes In Launcher" would be useful if clicking it reloaded probes, but it doesn't. Having another "LAUNCH" button below is redundant. You should move the "No Probes Loaded" message INTO the "Launch/Analyze" button, so it's less clutter.
• Green/Red: Horrid Christmas colors, IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE if colorblind (~8% of the male population). Seriously, use Amber or Teal or Violet or Purple or ANY OTHER COLORS than Red and Green.
• We are not submarines, we don't want/need submarine noises. Spaceship, Submarine. Spaceship =/= Submarine.
• Filter Hotkeys have always been useless, because we cannot alter, re-order, or delete/hide the defaults. NO ONE uses your defaults, and only the very first user-made filter gets assigned a hotkey in D-scan (0). Now they're doubly useless because they effect both windows--1-0 are essentially useless as keybinds.
• MAP CENTER IS OFFSET WITH CAMERA OFFSET, even if the option to "Offset Interface With Camera" is disabled. HELL TO THE NO.

The things I like:

• Recover Probe sound: Okay, useful.
• "Analyze" button click sound: Okay, laid back and not obnoxious.
• Icons added to Probe Scanner: Could be useful, I like it.
• The faint starfield/nebula in the background of the map is nice.
• Holding D-scan button and scanning a particular object is excellent.

Look, CCP, here's the real issue: You added a ton of clutter and what should be optional sounds/tweaks, but the Scanner windows don't have a dedicated Options tab like Overview does. If you add all these sounds, we need to be able to turn them down/off individually. If you add visual effects (map brightness, vertical lines, etc) these need toggles to turn on/off.

I love the ambient ticks and clicks of the UI, and having to turn them all off because of one sound is ridiculous.

And if you want color variance, you NEED to take into account colorblind players--if you're gonna insist we need a wider variety of colors, LET US PICK THE COLORS OURSELVES. That way everyone gets more features, and they can turn off what they don't want/need, and you account for visual problems.

Everything could be fixed with a dedicated Scanner Options menu to toggle off or decrease visual and audio effects and features. And to re-order filters, hide/delete default filters, and assign filter hotkeys independently. But the main problem is you were told these were issues weeks ago. Hell, I mentioned the red/green colorblind problem on the forum post detailing patch notes myself. You have to listen to feedback before implementing changes, or you will **** users off and they'll quit.

So, at the very least, let us select which "version" of the scanner to use: The Original, the v2 we had until this week, and this new v3--at least until you add said options menu.

Bye bye happiness....

Fighters now dropping like flies... They take agro twice as fast and take twice as much damage also... Another fail nerf imho (in that aspect)

Thanks for the new d-scan and probe scanner and the sounds.
Thanks for the citadel repair mechanic (although the shileld does not regen when we dock then undock)

I preserve my neutral stature on the Mobile Warp Disruption bubles' KM generation.

But the fighter nerf was just totally unnecessary. A small group of jacdaws used to drop fighters rapidly in a pvp environment anyway so why the nerf? Why make life harder for gamers who pay you so you guys can keep your jobs? Can't you still see that even with clone states and new player inception and allll the other mumbo jumbo players keep declining gradually? What happned to the 40k+ server player counts? What happned to the 50k player count I saw right after Clone states patch? They're gone... Scammers, High-sec ganks (not that I'm a victim but I'm emphasizing) and the nerfs after nerfs just keep pissing pople off.

Heavy Dictors.... nerfed
Rorqual... nerfed (for the 3rd time now)
Carriers... nerfed

Please stop trying to fix things that are NOT broken.

Regards

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Holding on until it gets really really bad until the anger outweighs gaming pleasure.

Overall good patch.

Happy to have the citadel repair and the drone repair while tethered seems to be working.

Think we could do without bubble KMs.... they don't fight back, it cost almost nothing and there's usually no one there.

Sun shading seems really messed up. As an example, we have a citadel near a sun and the screen is nearly as blinding as before (I had to lower the box transparencies to see any of the default white letters). On the other hand, the ships are dark, even on the sunny side--heck about the only way to see a ship's paint at all, is to dock up. Makes buying skins a lot less attractive if we can't see them in space.

The new scanner is good progress, especially once I figured out how the separate the map from the menu box. The options are good and visibility is excellent. Clicking and moving things is easier with fewer mis-drags....all good. Couple things I didn't' like is the "upside down" layout, and inability to grab the scan bubble edges to adjust the AU size--going back the menu box is a waste of precious time.

I'll echo concerns from others who are color blind. Game needs an across the board option for the most common blue/green color blindness.

To me, most of the changes have been good, thank you, CCP. I don't use D-scan much, so I can't comment on that, and the probe scanning I do almost exclusively using hot-keys, so am not much affected there. However, I think the spheres have been faded a little *too* much.

One thing has been irking me since the patch. It's a small thing, but occasionally relevant, and I'm not sure whether it was an intended change or is a glitch: since the patch, the hotkey I have set for undocking no longer cancels an in-progress undock - I have to click the button in the interface. Which is almost never in time if I suddenly realise I've forgotten something... :D

Regards

You broke d-scanner. Now you cant use the number keys 1-4 to activate modules or other usefull things you might have those keys mapped to.

FIX IT IM NOT PLAYING TILL YOU DO - IN FACT UNSUBBING.

wormhole resident in full agreement. see my post at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6873894#post6873894

The shortcut for 'Directional Scanner' does not work when using the old system. You can assign a shortcut key but it does not respond. The only way to use a bound key for d-scanning is to use the new system. :/