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I'd like to change the name of this thread to "All posts here are a call for Fozzie to retire, or be fired"

...then move it to Community.

Serious... clueless people in charge of 'fixes'. We have an economy that was originally touted for being designed by a Nobel winning economist, now it's being subverted and (again) 'fixed' by someone who barely understands basic math.

Sad days, these.

Amazing fix for PANIC.
Amazing incentive for killing the drones - this makes using rorquals a bit riskier even if the ship itself is not directly threatened.

I mean I guess if CCP released some numbers on how much was being mined with them, we'd be able to partake more of this part of the discussion, but I'm going to guess those numbers are under some sort of hilarious information embargo care of the CSM. The real big picture question is, in response to some numbers you are tightening the mineral faucet, but as time progresses more and more people will probably still be working towards Rorqs as they accrue more SP, so while individual rorquals are producing less, soon there will be more rorquals overall. Basically, are you going to keep tightening the mineral faucet with yield reductions as time goes on? Is there some sort of platonic, fixed mineral prices you are shooting for? Null industry and null space is now actually worth it for something other than moons; are you trying to keep mineral prices high enough for other places to be viable for mining?

You didn't have the numbers, regardless. The MER stats have never included drone mining.

So first the good things

Thanks for thinking about poor Miners being able to pay their respect to asteroids as well.
Also i hope that you manage to increase visual rock size. Since a colossal well on a visual scale is underwhelming.

The panic change well its an interesting way to diffuse it but definetly not optimal. But well others have and will say more^^

Concerning the next yield nerf for the rorqual which is about 25% if my math isnt off.
It feels like you are desperately grabbing for time to fix the underlying problem which is that not enough gets blown up to keep the ore market healthy.
Which partially is a problem made by yourself and the design philosophy with the sov system and not enough incentive for players to get the big guns out (battleships caps supers). battleship fleets are mostly obsolete except for Machs and maybe rattles. T1 counterparts arent used in bug numbers. Simply because their are other shipstypes that can do better and are well less aids to use (travel time etc).
And of course the players are partially at fault as well for not fielding the big honing spaceguns as well. But in most cases their is just no need or the spark of conflict gets snuffed through other reasons.
But before i ramble on the next thing i see happening is that we sit here in 3 months again discussing another yield nerf because most will just add another rorqual to their fleet to compensate and be done with it.

Have you thought about increasing minerals needed instead ? Placing a bigger figure of minerals needed for citadel production/ships in general? Just a though.

I spendet 25b for my rorq + fitting + drones + some skill injectors to get in the mining business.
And now, you want to nerf it .... again? wtf, just wtf

We are investigating the option of increasing the visual size of nullsec ore asteroids to help improve the feel of the ore anom environments (they've been a bit sad looking since the veld got removed) but we are not sure about some technical details of that potential change atm so no promises.

DONT EVEN BOTHER WASTING YOUR TIME. This new Nerf to rorqual mining is being seen for what it really is. Rorquals are to op a mining ship in your eyes. It takes the place of 5 hulk toons. So now you Nerf it even more so people have to go back to mining in hulks again. This then boosts the amount of people subbed to the game thus increasing plex sales and increasing the number of people paying for eve.

You guys need to rethink the Nerf to yeld amount. You decrease the cycle time by 30% yet Nerf the yields by 50%... This is on top of the last 40-50% held next a month or 2 ago. You attempted to help with the cost of mining drone but in the end you messed that up as well but failed. So unless you are planning on releasing mining dreadnaught of sorts this is a bullshit nerf. And I say this as the mineral market falls. So if this is going to be the case then lower the requirements of the excavator drone.

I can't believe the CSM thought this was a good idea.

I'm looking forward to your next post, Fozzie. If it's your resignation, at least. You're absolutely awful at your job.

This game is about risk and reward.

First of all, the ship already gets destroyed every single day.
*snip* No Kill boards. *snip* ISD Max Trix

And that does not include the drones, that people are already hunting - even without the incentive of kill mails. The introduction of kill mails for them is a good additional incentive. A very small gang of extremely cheap ships can already pose a serious threat to rorqual pilots' assets when they siege themselves in an asteroid field.

You should have made electronic warfare unsuable while the PANIC module is active, and you should have made the PANIC module weaker to increase the risk and leave the reward be. The game is supposed to reward players to put assets on the field. That's literally what the design behind a rorqual should be. You siege 10b+ of assets into an asteroid cluster, 70% of that value flying slowly around it, easily exposed to small gangs that come by. And a larger scale attack from through a wormhole or cyno, you'll need a capital fleet on standby to have any chance at all to live through it. It takes coordination between players to protect them, and it takes coordination between players to attack them. And it takes one guy to ruin them, you.




For the betterment of the game, I sincerely hope you resign. I have no trust in you as a game designer at CCP. Thank you in advance.

when you nerf yield for excavator drones why do not you a little boost yield from rorq boosts to other mining ships?

The Whine.. it is a good whine. A vintage whine that we will remember for years. The salty taste, the flowery aroma of dashed entitlement, the deep dark color of clearly missing the fact that the Rorqual and Excavator drones were OBVIOUSLY going to get nerfed.

Yes, tis a good vintage.. one I will savor for a long time.