Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The more you speak, the more we know you have never been a merc.


Leave where? The bulk of the kills fly to the mercs themselves, hence why you will find the mercs camping the likes of jita, amarr and main tradelanes.





What part of most of the people you will hunt are offline are you not understanding here?

You are chasing shadows, there is no intel you can gather, there is no tool you can use to filer out the offline players. Mercs are saddled with either wardec everything or spend all of your time chasing target not even there. There are zero ways to skin this cat.

Enough with the bullshit, the gameplay for mercs is bad and its bad due to a change made to benefit people they don't even hunt. You are no merc, you have never been a merc and frankly you are probably one of those bears that hates the idea of pvp at any time so naturally you want mercs to be crippled. There is no other explanation for the way you are acting.

The gameplay around watch lists was always terrible also though. Keeping a bad mechanic is always bad, and it was bad for high sec play just the same as for supers.
Just put online/offline status in the locator agent response. If you are hunting you will either have a corp spy, in which case you can tell, an alt with eyes on target in which case you can tell, or run a locator in which case you currently can't tell. So lets fix the exception to that list, locator agents are not free intel, they come at both isk cost & opportunity cost of not running it on another target, so all is good in the world then.

I have been calling for a simple "the target has gone to ground" message for when running a locator on an offline player, London Spy is against giving any help to mercs.

Ive been on all sides of "eve"

Pray as a noob, hunting noobs later on.. and made the server nearly lag when i logged in
wartime jf pilots and supers so many watchlist where blinking.

No more "watchlist" is fine by me,
roots out the incompetent , the good one's still find there targets.

How i see it , most merc corps i know are bashing on the new guys, the easy pray
to pimp there killboard with T1 cruiser kills , and maybe a badger...
Preferable with there T2/T3 pimped out boats who kills about anything the new guy can field.
( i was one once also )

Merc's have there place in this game, yet, i do think.. The one's that have trouble finding and killing
there targets , might want to take some classes of the one's who still do there thing.



And yes, as a pilot who had every red super pilot and cyno hunter on his list , i can live very good with that.
Thats why i now have alts, and alliance members with covops .
But yes, now , it does take effort to get your intel.
Eve, its just a little less safe , can live very good with that.

Of course they're lazy, they're complaining about how much harder it is to find and kill what are more than likely pve'ers and Indy players that probably can't defend themselves, because if they weren't, they wouldn't be complaining about the watchlist because their wartargets wouldn't be hiding from them.

I'm not a merc, but I am sympathetic to the issue caused by the watchlist changes and do believe it isn't as easy to find targets as you think.

However, having been a merc yourself and thinking it is so easy, I'll make a wager with you.

I'll give 2 Billion ISK to Chribba (and pay his fee).

If you can hunt me and find me in space within 1 week, just playing my normal game (so no hiding in wormholes), the 2 Billion is yours.

No requirement the other way. I am confident that you will have difficulty and think the boredom of trying to find me, not even trying to hide, will be bad enough as it is; together with the loss of credibility showing the argument is hollow.

So if you agree, post in a reply. Then I'll transfer the ISK to Chribba and have him post here as well and from then, the 7 days starts.

Show us all how easy it is.

Yes, that is the intent of 'find me in space' but stated much clearer.

That would be the only rule. Spacing Cowgirl on grid with me within 7 days of Chribba posting in this thread if the challenge is accepted.

Have you tried even discussing your wardec with your opponent? And I don't mean screaming in local or nasty mail.
Simple convo or mail asking "Hello, just wanted to know why you declared war on us?"

I'm curious...

I am not a merc either, however I have started to do war decs, what is important to me is target selection which I have touched on before, and the target selection aspect which is most important is that your target has something tangible in space.

The very fact that you are targeting a character who can move around different systems should make it hard and the easy no cost perfect intel of the watch list was abhorrent to me as is much of the data on the Eve map. The sad fact is that many of you got used to that free intel and based you play around that, and of course it hurts your play style.

I see baltec1 who is a can flipper, 0.0 player and ganker who has never done hisec merc stuff claiming that it is next to impossible to hunt targets and bow beating people who go against his point of view. Well as you are after a character who can go anywhere on Eve it damn well should be and to equate it to missions as he did above is so laughable that it pushed me to make this post.

Over time hisec has developed into an area where people avoid war decs, fair enough success in the end has turned into a loss of potential targets, so all you really have left is people who can avoid and people doing logistics from null sec alliances which is what the majority of kills are, it is simple evolution, but I see more and more Citadels put up and no war decs, and I have to wonder why you are war dec'ing people who can easily run away and hide and yet you do not war dec the people with Citadels, is that because you are failing to evolve. I went after POCO's owned by war dec entities, quite fun that, I have little chance of winning, but I am having a good laugh at the over kill brought to the first defence and then the failed log off trap on the second POCO, but it was P I R A T who are laughable.

I think that with the removal of the watch list giving you free intel on people logged will result in your prey changing their approach to move around less because their login status is not reported, give it time and stop being so defeatist, the prey will adjust and think that their log off not being detailed will make it easier for them and will make it easier for you in fact I am sure that you are seeing that happen.