EVE General Discussion

As i said before already, STO showes it too. You can fight in space in your ship, you can get FPS-like missions on planets and stations, or you can just visit a bar, a garden, or a lecture room.

All of those may run on different servers and different engines, it's different games in whole, but for player it's still the one game, where he can switch from one activity to another. It would be better than just make another dull stand-alone FPS - we had DUST already, and now it's dead.


There will be always a huge bunch of freaks, who will cry "This is a game about tables!!!!11" constantly, just like someone force 'em to buy and use outfits and stuff. Nope, they just hate when someone else use it. "Stop liking what i don't like", you know.

But in fact a lot of people ready to pay real money for that stuff, even just to make a cool portrait, so - why not?

It's also not true. As I have mentioned several times Eve today is not Eve from 2009, or Eve from 2003.

What colour do you want then?

Could you have meant "dying" or "dieing" ?

From this site you can see that some work was outsourced, I suppose its about outsourcing it to the Atlanta WoD team as described in this article. The team that was fired after few years after Incarna expansion and WoD cancelation.

They would need to add more people to company in the first place, like in my post.

BTW: This is a fine blog post about the matter of WIS development with links to other materials on this matter.

I love the idea of Eve Online being a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe. The only way for that to happen is for CCP to add Avatar Game play content for both in space and planetside.

Back in 2011 and 2012 there were a lot of different threads posted about WiS Avatar game content which usually turned into a forum war and got locked due to debates between pro and anti WiS players. However those threads contained various ideas for Avatar WiS game content as well as Avatar Exploration content so CCP has no shortage of ideas.

CCP did indeed listen but the main problem was nobody could agree on the specifics pertaining to it. Some players wanted all locations to be a 'shoot em up free for all action' while others wanted the content to follow existing game mechanics pertaining to system security levels (High, Low and Null Sec). Some players not only wanted the ability to kill other Avatars, they also wanted the ability to steal and or destroy personal assets as well, including jump clones.

Seeing how the community couldn't agree on the topic and due to the 2011 Summer Of Rage as well as problems with data programming, in my opinion CCP became gun shy about issuing any kind of statement pertaining to working on WiS Avatar game content. Even though they said the idea was shelved, as far as we know they could still be working on it now.

All of this was back when CCP was releasing DUST 514 (First Person Shooter) on Ps3 Console while working on World Of Darkness (Third Person Avatar Game) project. Currently both of those are now classified as failed, one due to picking the wrong medium for market and the other due to poor programming causing inability of game interaction. I only hope CCP learned from their mistakes on those projects.

Now it seems to me in order to have the experience of Eve being a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe, players have to sub to various game aspects of Eve Online. That in my opinion is the main problem. Everything should be locked and tied together with Eve Online and each aspect of game play content, both in space and planetside, should be accessed through the Captains Quarters.

Hopefully one day that becomes a reality.


DMC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XOOpjyC5w

We wanna WIS!

I don't support "WIS" and I wouldn't get any use for a "Barbie in space" update but I do understand the frustration of hisec players content wise. I just want to point out that the devs behave the same way toward everyone.

The most eager EvE players aren't happy about most of the changes either (Fozzie Sov, nullsec income barely better than Incursion, nerf to ratting etc). If this **** stays like that a large portion of the so called fanatics will continue to stop playing all together instead of just unsubbing alts.

Hello.

While I may be new to the game and only be able to play it because it went free (my financial situation doesn't let me pay for sub of anything, even Spotify, Netflix or some Twitch guy I enjoy), but I think WIS would greatly benefit the game, even if it'd be social aspect only, at least at first (i.e. no combat "out of ship").

To the people who says that they can't possibly do this, because their side projects failed, well, they've already did. Kinda. It's called captain's quarters. It works reasonably well, the only thing they would need to add is ability to run and jump because the walk speed is just awful.

Then they need to do "station level" and make it possible to meet other players there, i.e. just expanding the foundations that are already in the game.

Normally, as a programmer and a game developer myself, I'd probably scoff at "oh, just add multiplayer to this and make other people show up"... if Eve was a singleplayer game. But it being a multiplayer game, and single-server, persistent MMO world, no less (a feat that no other MMO doubled, unless I don't know of one that did it as well), means they already have most of netcode written, all they'd need would be just to reuse and adapt it for WIS.

Yes, it would take time, but compared to other stuff they have to do in order to just keep the game running (professional assessment by the way, tried to write several multiplayer, just multiplayer, like 2-4 people, games and netcode always prevented me from doing anything but hot seats, it's that hard), not to mention make new content and updates, it would be peanuts by comparison, since basic WIS engine (captain's quarters) is already done and most netcode, if they're writing it in a modular way with good methodologies, and given the fact the game hasn't yet spontaneously combusted, they do, can be reused. Heck, they could probably refit some netcode from DUST.

Because nothing says 'Science Fiction Sandbox' quite like trying on clothes and walking around.

I've got hundreds of hours on Sims 3. Would be awesome I agree.