EVE General Discussion

Jogging, jumping, shooting, doing stuff around. A lot of stuff. Actually thinking more about those things, and these thoughts are quickly starting to overwhelm my little, feeble mind. 😓

that... that wasn't my point. My point is if they ever do another WIS, they'll probably do what they already almost did with WIS. Make a brand new system that has nothing to do with the old one, and leave the old one cluttering up all our hard drives, the new one basically inaccessible to basically everyone. They'd make a new citadel that costs 1,000X as much as the current biggest one, and make that the only place you can newWIS. It's the CCP Way.

ed: on the other hand, it could be worse. They could remove the hangar view.

And that reason was crying manbabies that thought this will destroy content that's already there. And compared to what they need to actually maintain game in a working condition and making other content, WIS is peanuts in comparison.

Also, this game might as well not have any NPC enemies, since it's so heavily PVP focuses (if you're in EVE for PVE, you're doing it wrong). NPC mining/NPC frigates should stay in just so players have some heist opportunities, but IMO sleepers and other NPC enemies should be removed as they're easy to kill and easy to run away from. Yes, this is controversial, but really, if they can't make NPC challenging, they could just as well remove them completely and then give players some tools to take over systems, even in highsec and maintain their presence there, so fights would be actually challenging.

Back to WIS, I think CCP would do well by bringing it back. If you don't like it, you just wouldn't use it and play the game as you always were. Meanwhile those who'd like it could get into it.

I know a thing or two on how software get made. I've been deving since I was 10yo (now I'm 26), so based on my experience and given the size of CCP as a company and the fact that WIS content existed at one point (and probably is stowed away somewhere, perhaps even in the client itself, just made inaccessible), it would really take them one to two months to get WIS running again, mostly spent on adjusting old WIS code to current codebase so it would work (as most of graphical assets related to WIS are already made as shown in that video someone linked earlier).


Well, I'd be fine if it would be just jogging and jumping. Those things are easy to code in a multiplayer context - running is just speed change and animation change and jumping is just movement on the Y axis ;). As for doing stuff around, they could add some casino games where you could bet and win ISK, perhaps some arcade games as well and billiard (pool most likely, though I'd love to see snooker as well).

But things that aren't necessary for working WIS can be added in a future patch, which includes combat and more advanced in-station entertainment.

http://imgur.com/a/Ql3Jc

Yes to WiS.

I've long been a fan of the WiS concept and would love to see it implemented. EVE's character creation is top shelf and it's a pity that the end result is so underutilized. Even if just from a sociological standpoint, having a more fully formed avatar experience in game would add some interesting layers to the interaction that's pretty much limited to ship to ship combat. And then of course there's the whole revenue stream for CCP, as it's a proven fact (phenomenon?) that players tend to dump credits into habitat customization and personalization when there's actually something for their avatar to do. If nothing more, it'd be a fantastic experiment.

Even if it's just a bunch of different 'hangout' venues for our characters, or kind of like now how you can walk to your PI button or your fitting window; that's all it needs to be. (Maybe walk to a mission agent?) All you old money saying that WiS is bad and not good for Eve .. are you kidding me? Video games are more and more microtransaction based everyday. Especially now that we're free to play.

Money on the table.

Is this even true? Are there people out there who say "Gee, I sure hate internet spaceships, but I would pay for an internet spaceships game if they had a bigger captain's quarters."?

Or I guess with a little less hyperbole, would this bring in enough *new* players, help retain current players that would otherwise leave, or bring back old players in enough numbers to financially justify the *huge* costs in building and maintaining this? Keep in mind, CCP had to fire 1/3 of it's employees when it turned out space barbie didn't work out, and that was how many employees it took to *fail* at it. The doubling of the company's workforce to do something like this right isn't a small investment.

I'm guessing that a robust socially interactive in-game avatar WiS feature could bring in new players to a certain degree, especially those who only know EVE as "that spreadsheets in space game". It would certainly make EVE a fuller experience (and the lulz would be epic and non stop, considering it'd be like these forums but with avatar to avatar face time) but you do have a good point about the cost effective angle for CCP. I suppose time will tell...

Oh god... Would literally do anything to see those SC(ammed) people cry an ocean after learning about it.

Let's face it, Star Citizen is never coming out, at least not for foreseeable future. It's basically modern Duke Nukem Forever. There are bunch of techdemos related to it, but that's all. Not actual game. Hell, even No Man's Sky is better than SC by virtue of NMS actually being released. And that's saying something.

It won't die because a significant number of people really do want it back. I signed up after Incarna, and I want the stuff I missed. People talk about the Gallente pleasure hub and other things and if there's even a remote possibility of being able to go beyond the captain's quarters into a third-person Citadel environment, I'm all for it.