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Was the destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor necessary?

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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#21 - 2016-06-01 17:23:20 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
And of course, in that case only after they finish their job.


All due respect, Kim, you are sick. You embody nothing of Raata--you have no honor and no soul. I don't know what you are, but you are not one of us. The fact that you continue to pretend to speak for all Caldari is a twisted joke that has gone on for far too long.

I speak out of turn, but I speak hinmoniaa.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#22 - 2016-06-01 17:50:57 UTC
I propose a Solution to this issue.

We shall saw Gallente Prime in half, at the equator. Then both the State and Federation can have half.

Also, saw Caldari Prime in half, at the equator. Again, both the State and Federation can have half.

Then, join the top half of Gallente Prime to the bottom half of Caldari Prime, and vice versa.

And et voilĂ , or as the Gallente would say, there you go.

Everyone's happy !

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#23 - 2016-06-01 18:20:54 UTC
Neph wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
And of course, in that case only after they finish their job.


All due respect, Kim, you are sick. You embody nothing of Raata--you have no honor and no soul. I don't know what you are, but you are not one of us. The fact that you continue to pretend to speak for all Caldari is a twisted joke that has gone on for far too long.

I speak out of turn, but I speak hinmoniaa.

If you speak of anything, it's not hinmoniaa, but a shameless gallente propaganda from the mouth of a primitive tribal, who will never be able to understand us. Yes, I am not one of YOU, I am not a primitive tribal like minmatars. I am Caldari.

And if you dare to question my honor, at least do in in space in your ship. My honor, unlike yours, is not stained. Would you like to prove yours by meeting me in combat, or you just prefer barking like toothless gallentean petdog on forums?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#24 - 2016-06-01 18:34:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
Diana Kim wrote:
Neph wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
And of course, in that case only after they finish their job.


All due respect, Kim, you are sick. You embody nothing of Raata--you have no honor and no soul. I don't know what you are, but you are not one of us. The fact that you continue to pretend to speak for all Caldari is a twisted joke that has gone on for far too long.

I speak out of turn, but I speak hinmoniaa.

If you speak of anything, it's not hinmoniaa, but a shameless gallente propaganda from the mouth of a primitive tribal, who will never be able to understand us. Yes, I am not one of YOU, I am not a primitive tribal like minmatars. I am Caldari.

And if you dare to question my honor, at least do in in space in your ship. My honor, unlike yours, is not stained. Would you like to prove yours by meeting me in combat, or you just prefer barking like toothless gallentean petdog on forums?


"Hinmoniaa" is not a noun, Kim. Do you even speak Napanii?

I'm sorry. I've supported you before, but this time you've gone too far. That said, I have no desire to watch repeat the same argument again that you've had before before the public a thousand times. It'll do nothing for whatever scrap of a reputation you have left and I at least want to save you that. I'll PM you and we can finish this there.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Stitcher
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#25 - 2016-06-01 18:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
let me put forward a situation, Kim. The CEP has declared the Templis Dragonaur to be a terrorist group. The Caldari Navy has a standing order to engage terrorist groups. You encounter a Templis Dragonaur attacking a defenseless Gallente civilian convoy, and are the only force able to come to the aid of the civilians. Do you engage the Templis Dragonaur?

I will engage Templis Dragonaurs vessel only if I will receive direct order from a fleet commander or superior Protectorate or Navy officer to commence the attack.


Translation: "Standing orders only apply when I agree with them."

Although seriously, can we talk about the name "Templis Dragonaurs" for a second? For a Caldari supremacist organisation, they sure have a very un-Caldari name...

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#26 - 2016-06-01 18:51:40 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
To date the Gallente have committed 0 acts of Genocide against the Caldari. For proof I offer the fact that the Caldari people are still around... And even have their own nation.


Well.... zero successful acts of genocide.

If you fail the act, then you can't say that you committed the act.....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#27 - 2016-06-01 18:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
Neph wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Neph wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
And of course, in that case only after they finish their job.


All due respect, Kim, you are sick. You embody nothing of Raata--you have no honor and no soul. I don't know what you are, but you are not one of us. The fact that you continue to pretend to speak for all Caldari is a twisted joke that has gone on for far too long.

I speak out of turn, but I speak hinmoniaa.

If you speak of anything, it's not hinmoniaa, but a shameless gallente propaganda from the mouth of a primitive tribal, who will never be able to understand us. Yes, I am not one of YOU, I am not a primitive tribal like minmatars. I am Caldari.

And if you dare to question my honor, at least do in in space in your ship. My honor, unlike yours, is not stained. Would you like to prove yours by meeting me in combat, or you just prefer barking like toothless gallentean petdog on forums?


"Hinmoniaa" is not a noun, Kim. Do you even speak Napanii?

I'm sorry. I've supported you before, but this time you've gone too far. That said, I have no desire to watch repeat the same argument again that you've had before before the public a thousand times. It'll do nothing for whatever scrap of a reputation you have left and I at least want to save you that. I'll PM you and we can finish this there.


Actually, nevermind. There is no argument here. This libel ends now.

Commander Kim,

You accuse me of spewing Gallente propaganda. You accuse me of being a "primitive tribal". You accuse me of not understanding the Caldari people. You accuse me of not being Caldari. You accuse me of being a Gallentean puppet.

All this, apparently, based upon my face alone. Kim, I have been in fleets with you against the Gallente. I have fought alongside you. I was born into the State and as Caldari. I rejected the Republic and returned to the State because this is my home and these are my people. I have not once failed to support my okusaika and my nation loyally as a proud citizen and I will continue to do so all my life. It's beyond absurd that I should have to face these completely groundless charges from another comrade.

You are promoting the slaughter of civilians by terrorists because you hold your personal hatred more highly than the responsibility of upholding the honor of the Caldari officer. I condemn you not as a "Gallentean petdog" but as Caldari. How could my honor be stained when we look at yours?

I am not breaking rank. You are a capsuleer in State Prot. I am a member of CSSYN. You have no authority over me.

And no, I will not sacrifice your crew members to prove a point.

I demand a public apology.

Sincerely,
Captain Nephal Khaborik

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#28 - 2016-06-01 18:56:11 UTC
Shots fired?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Stitcher
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#29 - 2016-06-01 18:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Claudia Osyn wrote:
If you fail the act, then you can't say that you committed the act.....


I can think of a few people who might argue that the mere fact an attempt was made is at least grounds for holding a small grudge...

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#30 - 2016-06-01 19:04:35 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
If you fail the act, then you can't say that you committed the act.....


I can think of a few people who might argue that the mere fact an attempt was made is at least grounds for holding a small grudge...

What can I say, we are masters of one-upmanship.....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#31 - 2016-06-01 19:11:31 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
let me put forward a situation, Kim. The CEP has declared the Templis Dragonaur to be a terrorist group. The Caldari Navy has a standing order to engage terrorist groups. You encounter a Templis Dragonaur attacking a defenseless Gallente civilian convoy, and are the only force able to come to the aid of the civilians. Do you engage the Templis Dragonaur?

I will engage Templis Dragonaurs vessel only if I will receive direct order from a fleet commander or superior Protectorate or Navy officer to commence the attack.


Translation: "Standing orders only apply when I agree with them."

Although seriously, can we talk about the name "Templis Dragonaurs" for a second? For a Caldari supremacist organisation, they sure have a very un-Caldari name...

Translation: "Stitcher didn't understand what was said and instead of asking to clarify decided to troll."

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#32 - 2016-06-01 19:17:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
let me put forward a situation, Kim. The CEP has declared the Templis Dragonaur to be a terrorist group. The Caldari Navy has a standing order to engage terrorist groups. You encounter a Templis Dragonaur attacking a defenseless Gallente civilian convoy, and are the only force able to come to the aid of the civilians. Do you engage the Templis Dragonaur?

I will engage Templis Dragonaurs vessel only if I will receive direct order from a fleet commander or superior Protectorate or Navy officer to commence the attack.


Translation: "Standing orders only apply when I agree with them."

Although seriously, can we talk about the name "Templis Dragonaurs" for a second? For a Caldari supremacist organisation, they sure have a very un-Caldari name...

Translation: "Stitcher didn't understand what was said and instead of asking to clarify decided to troll."

This is a Diana Kim thread, the only thing it's good for is trolling....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#33 - 2016-06-01 19:24:46 UTC
Neph wrote:

All this, apparently, based upon my face alone.

Negative. This is based not upon "your face" at all, but on your actions, listed as:

1) Intervening into historical and philosophical discussion just to insult your superior.
2) Failing to defend your honor and not accepting a duel. (though it happened later, but I'll surely add this to your "deeds")

Neither of these actions characterize you as Caldari.

Neph wrote:

I demand a public apology.

Oh, what an irony, an offender dares to 'demand' an apology.

I can say you just this: request denied.

Though I'd like you to report to my quarters, so my boot will gladly show you your place, 'soldier'.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2016-06-01 19:29:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


Though I'd like you to report to my quarters, so my boot will gladly show you your place, 'soldier'.

I got 20 on Neph for this fight. Any takers?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Jason Galente
Hole Punchers
Drifters Stole My Local
#35 - 2016-06-01 19:29:15 UTC
Anataine Deva wrote:
Dear Ms Kim,

I really wish we will meet each other one day in person, so I can do with you what some Gallente already should have done with you. Giving you a hug, a smile and then leaving you there in peace.

Diana Kim wrote:
But lets look what we already know about gallente. They are ruthless in their inhumane tactics and they are able to genocide people, even disregarding losses of their own kin.
....
We must do what we have to do.
Remove Gallente.
It's sad to guess the shadows that darken your heart. To see your way of spreading hate, always looking for innocent Caldari to draw them with you down on your dark path.

I can't say what really happened 200 or even 7 years ago. I wasn't there and I don't care. "The first casualty of War is Truth." You are fighting right now a war what doesn't make your accusations reliable.

As a human I know that condemning children for the actions of their ancestors is wrong. Condemning a nation because of the actions of individuals is wrong.

As a Gallente I like the Caldari, live with that.


Your approach works better, but mine is more fun.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#36 - 2016-06-01 19:32:36 UTC
@Diana I'll pick this up via PM.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#37 - 2016-06-01 19:34:12 UTC
Neph wrote:
@Diana I'll pick this up via PM.

Wait, it was getting good!

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Jason Galente
Hole Punchers
Drifters Stole My Local
#38 - 2016-06-01 19:34:55 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Pilots;

You'll notice I use the term 'accept,' rather than 'agree.' One can accept a thing without agreeing with it. As for dissent, well, that's a discussion for another day, as social mores will vary from corporation to corporation.

As for acceptance, let me put forward a situation, Kim. The CEP has declared the Templis Dragonaur to be a terrorist group. The Caldari Navy has a standing order to engage terrorist groups. You encounter a Templis Dragonaur attacking a defenseless Gallente civilian convoy, and are the only force able to come to the aid of the civilians. Do you engage the Templis Dragonaur?

I will engage Templis Dragonaurs vessel only if I will receive direct order from a fleet commander or superior Protectorate or Navy officer to commence the attack.


And of course, in that case only after they finish their job.


Shockingly barbaric and inhuman.

I've teased you, messed with your head, toyed with you a bit, but I've never actually hated you.

I think I'm starting to change my mind.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#39 - 2016-06-01 19:39:16 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Neph wrote:
@Diana I'll pick this up via PM.

Wait, it was getting good!


All due respect, Osyn, but while the Gallente may prefer to engage in public mud-slinging for the public's amusement, I will do no such thing.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#40 - 2016-06-01 19:45:13 UTC
Neph wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Neph wrote:
@Diana I'll pick this up via PM.

Wait, it was getting good!


All due respect, Osyn, but while the Gallente may prefer to engage in public mud-slinging for the public's amusement, I will do no such thing.

Kill joy.Sad

Kidding, you do your thing.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.