Intergalactic Summit

Greetings, pilots!

Today I wold like to discuss the demolition of Nouvelle Rouvenor, performed by culture preservation society known as Templis Dragonaurs almost 200 years ago. Nouvelle Rouvenor was an underwater city established by gallenteans on Caldari Prime. Some people claim that sabotage of this city has caused gallente to bombard the entire Caldari Prime and has started the war. But lets get into the history and analyze events happened before and after the attack, and try to answer the question if destruction of this city was necessary.

1. Did it start the war?
This is a common misconception. The war began way earlier. After the Gallente Federation rejected Caldari people right to have voice in their own management of their own colonies, our ancestors decided to leave the Federation and live as they seem fit themselves, not by Federal, but by their own, Caldari laws. Gallente, who coerced Caldari earlier to join their Federation by economical pressure now were put before the fact the Caldari neither want nor will live by their laws. Feeling the power slipping out from them, gallente then went open with their intentions and tried to coerce Caldari by force to stay under gallenten oppression. They went war on us and blockaded Caldari Prime, gripping it hard with their warships. Both Caldari and Gallente alike on Caldari Prime became victims of Federal oppression. Before the Nouvelle Rouvenor was demolished its inhabitants were in same conditions Caldari in surface cities. Federal fascist with their war made suffer everyone on the planet, and their actions made quite a lot of people desperate.

2. Did it cause the bombardment of Caldari Prime?
It is rather usual point of view that Caldari Prime was bombarded because a couple of desperate peoples blew up Nouvelle Rouvenor. But lets look what we already know about gallente. They are ruthless in their inhumane tactics and they are able to genocide people, even disregarding losses of their own kin. Take for example Noir's attack on Ishukone station in Malkalen. Or the recent operation Highlander. Gallente claimed that they did it to prevent titan shooting at Caldari Prime. But if it was really the case and the Shiigeru would shoot at Caldari Prime, it would do it as a reply to gallente attack. This leads to conclusion, if gallente believed the titan would indeed shoot doomsday on Caldari Prime they have attacked to provoke it to use doomsday on the planet, provided what they claim is true. Otherwise their attack had no sense, because to prevent it from shooting doomsday they shouldn't have attacked at all.

Here we can see horrendous disdain to human lives from gallente side. But also we should note their propaganda, trying to hide and cover what they do with their usual rhetorics about freedoms and so called 'rights', that they violate themselves every time. Obviously they need this propaganda basically for themselves, because their population opinion make their elected clowns hold their positions. And bombardment of Caldari Prime with gallente city underwater could easily shatter the dome with charges detonating above. When Templis Dragonaurs destroyed the city themselves, they simply opened the way for gallente to bombard the planet without worrying to make up excuses about blowing up the city themselves, so they could do it without need of wasting millions on propaganda: there were mostly Caldari left on the planet, and obviously gallente citizens wouldn't care about their lives as much as they would about other gallente.

But would these fascist bombard Caldari Prime even if Nouvelle Rouvenor wasn't destroyed? In my opinion, they would.

3. Was it an act of desperation or terror military action?
I think I'll start with the latter. Caldari military doctrine lacks terror operations, and this is quite understandable: we are professionals, and terror is just a poor men war. Terror does not promote success of the campaign and there are no evidences from the history that it has ever succeded. Even when the war has started, the operation of destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor wasn't performed by Caldari military either. As for being just an act of desperation, this is very easy and possible explanation, taking into account how all peoples on Caldari Prime were oppressed by Gallentean fascism. However, there is one particular thing about who exactly have committed the demolition of Nouvelle Rouvenor. It were neither Caldari servicemen, nor suffered civilians. It were members of a culture preservance society. So, maybe there was something more than just desperation and military (including terror) operation?

Can you go back wherever you've been hiding the past couple of weeks?

And no.

Loyalty to the State does not equate to agreeing with everything they say. You should be aware that every State Officer, and every citizen, is both entitled and encouraged to have their own opinion. We follow orders. But that does not mean we are mindless peons to an unfeeling Lord. We are dedicated to upholding the Ideals of the State.

So while the CEP has stated such, we are not required to agree. Once you are forced to believe whatever you read in the media or the party line you become trapped in the confines of a prison built by your own stupidity. Take the Galente Federation for example. Their citizens are more worried about entertainment and what the media spoon feeds then than about what is truly going on.

Quite right. We have that freedom.

Right. At least some small part of what you say is true.

Maybe I would agree with you if you said it before the war has started right after I had quite shocking personal interaction with gallente who opened my eyes on them and made me stopped thinking about them as of normal people.

But since then I have seen quite a lot. Malkalen, Highlander, Caldari Prime racism and apartheid, genocide of Caldari colonists...

You know, I don't actually condemn a nation anymore because of the actions of some individuals, but because of their policies and because of what they are doing currently at the same moment as we speak.

I would like to advise you to take a ship with a probe scanner and head towards Black Rise (any high security system in the region will do). Find a gallente prison facility, infiltrate it, rescue any of Caldari captives, treat them and see what official Federal staff is doing to them.

After you do this, I'll gladly meet you in person to discuss what you have seen.

Okay, 1. - that pun was awful.

2. - there's no POINT in punning on a forum that automatically translates between several hundred different languages because only the handful of people who speak the same dialect as you will even get it, and

3. - you're not being clever, you're being facetious.

Whilst I can understand your constant need for attention (and thus perceived relevance) how about you post something that isn't a direct copy-paste from the RUTV galnet domains with some change in nouns?

Scrub.

To date the Gallente have committed 0 acts of Genocide against the Caldari. For proof I offer the fact that the Caldari people are still around... And even have their own nation.

Pilots;

You'll notice I use the term 'accept,' rather than 'agree.' One can accept a thing without agreeing with it. As for dissent, well, that's a discussion for another day, as social mores will vary from corporation to corporation.

As for acceptance, let me put forward a situation, Kim. The CEP has declared the Templis Dragonaur to be a terrorist group. The Caldari Navy has a standing order to engage terrorist groups. You encounter a Templis Dragonaur attacking a defenseless Gallente civilian convoy, and are the only force able to come to the aid of the civilians. Do you engage the Templis Dragonaur?