EVE General Discussion

You so funny, OP! Me laff long time! "New" huh? "Content creation" huh? In this game they're called "gankers" huh?

This is enough manure to fertilize my rather large garden for an entire summer.

Thanks so much.

I am new, but after I bought my mining permit I did make a pilot to "walk a mile in their shoes" and went out with code on 5 freighter ganks and a few miner ganks. I also have a pilot that does faction warfare. I have to say ganking took a lot more effort and coordination then anything else I have done in the game so far. But I don't like the tears and the hate directed at me. Most of the time I mine and on the weekends I go out in frig gangs and Plex. But if I wouldn't have been upset with the bumpers I would not have went to low sec and probably quit the game. I consider my self a miner because I do that most and have biomassed the ganker I made. But I do see the need for mercs, ganker and griefers in Eve. Maybe after longer in the game I might see it differently, who knows. That's the great thing about different experiences, they cause you to grow.

The word has more meanings than removing ones reproductive organs

To answer the question in the subject line.

Carebears in Eve are much like themselves in rl, they needs rules and routines to keep an even keel. They see Eve as a place to socialize(like a bar), and need the basic rules of that type of social setting to feel comfortable. Their voice is extremely loud, the complaint threads run rampant, and I'll be willing to bet that many petitions have been submitted to keep that basic set of social rules intact.

Which leads us to the answer, the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. If gankers had the the numbers that the bears had, they could do the same thing. The problem is that type of player(ganker, PvP'r, agent, scammer, opportunists, etc.) Are so used to adapting to the endless nerfs that they just find a way to get what they want. The unfortunate part of that is, it usually leads to more nerfs.

All of that, attached to the fact that whenever a ganker complains, it's written off as a troll(or some other way of down playing their complaint).

The real point here is OP, that high-sec content is very dynamic(like the players that create it), and "castrated" or not....where there's a will there's a way.

Allright OP, besides the recent bumping nerf and the watchlist changes what else has been implemented since November that you deemed "castration" of the ganking and merc playstyles? FYI since you're only 5 months old you might not be aware that actual griefing is not an allowed playstyle.

oh i didn't know that i had a guy that kept war decing every corp I was in for the first 3 months unless i paid him 500m but he stop after the change to online status. he only got me once even though he chased me every time i was on.

he stop after the change where you couldn't see who came online

How do you castrate someone who has no balls?

https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/fanfest-2016-day-2-in-review/



Reading this, that is NOT castrating high-sec content creators. The ironic part about this is that this change will actually create new content. Just create an alt or hire someone to act as a suicide point for the person doing the bumping as someone here already suggested. And by the way, your point seems to be about the gankers trying to get idle players to stay engaged and play the game instead of just being AFK all day. But the change in question is more to do with permabumping a hauler that is going from gate to gate, who are likely to be more active players compared to the miners, and the hauler not having any recourse against that because the victim fighting back would get Concordokken while the bumpers remain unpunished. Without this change, the mechanic of permabumping become unfair.

As for the miners being bumped compared to haulers, miners only get bumped far out from the belt with high-mass, high-speed ships and then left alone to see if the idle player ever gets back while his mining barge sits idle at 250km from the belt. And if it's one of those CODE guys, then they will likely call in the big guns to suicide gank the miner. So far, I have yet to see a single change preventing ganks.

Pardon me if I'm already repeating something here as it's late for me here and I'm not in the mood to read through the entire thread.

Did he join Eve Uni?

You should check the definition of objective sometime. What you typed there is an extremely good example of objectivity.

As to the concept, your simplistic mind is not able to grasp the elegance of that approach, but it's ok, anti-gankers need people too; and who better than the most simplistic minds in the community. After all, anyone with the slightest bit of self respect and intelligence is off doing absolutely anything else. Even mining is a higher pursuit.