Player Features and Ideas Discussion

F1.

So you don't know why people AFK in systems for days?

In wormholes, you assume there's someone cloaked up watching you. We don't stay docked up. Without that level of paranoia and preparation you're going to fail... and if you're afraid to fail you don't belong outside of high sec anyhow.

Lock pod. F1.

Though I would like to, a pod don't have a cloak. Oh well, was hoping that there was a simple solution that would end this discussion whitch has been going on for as long as I've been playing.

There is one... I call it The Ultimate Guide to Life, the Universe and Cloaking.

Yes, your solution is turning nullsec into wormhole space.

Actually, you know what? **** it, I'd like to see just what would happen to nullsec if that was done. Let's do this.

Ahh of course.

It's not exactly the same, though, as it can be probed down, and as such they can't be really AFK, and there is a counter.

If the solution you talk about is flying with others for added security, then yes I agree. Players that live in zero-sec systems that refuse to play with others is being, well, dumb.

If the problem you speak of is the afk, then the waving about is two-fold. "Carebears" complain that they can't do anything to the neut or red that decides to place himself in a system and then do whatever he wants away from the keyboard, and that it will be solved with only cloak detection. The pvp-bears say that afk is a viable tactick to prevent income and to distill fear, that players that dont want to defend a system dont deserve to live there and that all those problem will go away once local is killed. So in my opinion both parties hides behind it.

The problem is that both parties usually wants the exreme of one end. To kill cloak and leave local, and to kill local and leave the cloak. What so dificult about the middleground? Why is it so dificult to compromise?

edit: omg, a lot of typos here

The middle ground is easy.

1. Remove cloaked ships from local.
2. Remove access to local from cloaked ships. If you want intel while cloaked, go get it.
3. Add a delay in being able to fire a cyno (Length TBD). This should be long enough to prevent abuse of hot dropping out of absolute nowhere. Possible exemption to Black Ops ships.

Local remains for the majority that want it. Cloaks actually cloak. The "afk cloak" issue dies... you won't see a cloaked ship in local sitting there for days on end. Null space retains the bit of danger it's meant to have instead of being nerfed to be even softer.